Evidence God Exists: Part II

[Welsh cake]

*sigh* I can't begin to understand why you'd be so intentionally wrapped up in such a silly exercise of self-deception

Speak for yourself.

I've been honest with you from the start: I was formerly a Christian, now currently an Atheist.

God, as I have come to know Him and understand Him, is a part of every one and every thing. That means that He is just as much a part of you as He is a part of me. So, from my beliefs and my perspective, denying God's existence is like denying you have an arm or a leg; it is simply ridiculous.

Well there's a nonsensical hypothesis: stating this 'God concept' is a part of me is more or less claiming there's this really attractively sexy woman in my bed right now - I'm not denying her presence, she just isn't fucking there Watson! Much to my dismay and frustration.

No, I was not trying to impress anyone at all. I was trying to illustrate the ways in which God works and how He can be revealed to a person, even an Atheist such as I considered myself.

This is getting tiresome. Did you or did you not previously believe in god(s) at that time? You can't "consider yourself" an atheist whilst simultaneously holding onto theistic beliefs, that's a contradictory position.

This is because the problem with discussing religion and God with any Atheist is that they simply do not understand God. Thus, to get anywhere in a dicussion with an Atheist, theists and believers must first educate them on how God works, then move on to other topics of discussion.

I'm afraid before you can start "educating" others, you first need to define what this god thingy you propose actually is, and that is, you must provide a clear positive ontology for the God concept you think is real.

As I said above, the purpose of my stating Atheists can convert is so I may demonstrate to you how God works and go from there. You misunderstand or find contention with the lesson.

Which is, once again, entirely irrelevant to your earlier claim of being an atheist, people can and often do convert and de-convert. What I'm now asking from you is to make good on your burden of proof: prove God is real. Btw, I'm only asking you because fellow-former-atheist AngelThMan clearly can't be arsed to finish the debate he started. >.>

everyone is born an atheist to begin with!

Wrong. By my beliefs, everyone is born with the utmost perfect belief; a belief not bogged down with religious names and confusion.

You're making horribly false causal connections about cognitive thought processes here; you have to learn about said belief before it can actually become knowledge, or usually you would acquire and accept the dogma uncritically by undergoing religious indoctrination of some kind. For most kids that is simply known as 'Sunday School' at church.

This is why I state that we are born with perfect belief; we have not bee introduced to our own individual likes and dislikes yet, and thus we have not had a chance to form a perspective about the world which could blind us from God and His teachings.

See my previous response.

I reiterate, speak for yourself.

Likewise, I've been honest with you from the start: I was formerly a Christian, now currently an Atheist.