(May 11, 2010 at 5:36 am)tackattack Wrote: Now you're asking about value based classification as opposed to definition based?
There is a difference?
All definition necessitates value. Example definition: car is red.
Value= to what extent car is red.
There is no definition I am aware of that does not include value. Rather: value and attribution (if, for the sake of argument, there was really a difference) completely form our definition of everything and anything. And as I say in the parenthesis... the attribution of value is as much an attribution as any other... just as one might say that without value there would be no attribution.
To return to your question in a less 'roundabout' manner: I've no understanding of any opposition between the two things you suppose there to be an opposition between (under my definitions... which i understand might be different from your own, and hence would require that I be made aware of your definitions (lest we fall into semantic problems)). I do not accept the definition of "person" to mean simply "human" for reasons I stated above. Perhaps you might address those reasons if you disagree with them?
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
