(July 3, 2014 at 3:43 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote:(July 3, 2014 at 2:53 pm)blackout94 Wrote: In the US I believe it is true. But don't forget in europe conservatives equal american democrats. I was talking about what both right and left should defend, not what they actually protect in practice. Any politician knows having a strong middle class benefits both left wing and right wing.
It does confuse me somewhat when I see Americans on here labelling democrats (so called liberals I guess) as 'far-left'.
I don't think any American has seen or encountered anything beyond the centre right, at least not in the last 50 years or so. As you say, general central right European politics is centred on the ground that the democrats occupy currently, at least by my reckoning.
I don't think the US electorate is really that familiar with socialism apart from what they saw/heard in the USSR or Cuba. God bless 'em.
True story. People should educate themselves better. Most americans probably don't know that socialism and capitalism are two necessary realities of a mixed economy system, you can have more one than the other but you can't live without both. What countries are there without a mixed system? China, North Korea, Cuba (not so much now), etc. Most Americans don't realize their system too is mixed, it has government owned property and services even if it is a lot less than in europe
Here even the nationalists (what we call ultra conservative and 'fascists' as a form of insult) support a national healthcare system. In america I guess an UHS would be labeled as 'commie shit'.
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