RE: Once Again.... If You Don't Like France...
July 4, 2014 at 9:47 am
(This post was last modified: July 4, 2014 at 9:50 am by Mudhammam.)
(July 4, 2014 at 9:00 am)Blackout Wrote:(July 4, 2014 at 8:50 am)ManMachine Wrote: Any atheist (and variants thereof) should be well informed, especially as we often cite scientific evidence, scientific theory and the need for accurate empirical evidence as the basis for our reasoning that leads to our assertions.
I see you decided to dispense with all that and make wild unfounded claims.
Hypocrisy, thy name is you.
MM
First of all being an atheist has nothing to do with scientific knowledge, evidence, and theories, being one just means you lack belief in any deities, as far as I know, there are atheists that believe in astrology (I've met one), reincarnation, spiritual forces not related with the concept of god...
Any well informed person knows what happens in theocratic nations governed by a certain religion. Take the example of Pakistan or Saudi Arabia, do you really think my assertion is unfounded and lacks evidence? I didn't say all muslims were the same. I talked about a stereotype that comes from genuine facts and events that have been happening for years.
Let's take the example of Saudi Arabia or any other middle eastern country with similar political regimes and forms of government (theocracy) - Being homosexual gets you the death penalty, apostasy and having a different religion gets you the same punishment, being a woman gives you fewer rights than men. So then again where did I mistake myself?
Although I don't see a lot in their holy works that discourages the oppression you mention, and some of it even seems to flat out condone or promote it, keep in mind that it's similar to any other faith. The majority, at least in modern societies, would probably not wish for homosexuals and apostates to be punished by the state or other individuals. It's like Christianity, many would say that's between a person and God. Of course, there are reasons to criticize Islam but you should be careful not to lump them all into some group as hateful and barbaric. I'd say those countries and the situations created under their laws, which we all find abhorrent, have more to do with culture than strictly "Islam," which again means different things to different people.
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza