Once Again.... If You Don't Like France...

[Chas]

You don't have to disagree with Franklin. The context of that quote is grossly misinterpreted by modern readers who have no idea what the fuck Franklin was talking about in 1755.

http://www.lawfareblog.com/2011/07/what-...ally-said/

In short, Franklin was not describing some tension between government power and individual liberty. He was describing, rather, effective self-government in the service of security as the very liberty it would be contemptible to trade.

But it is necessary to read the whole article.

Thank you - very enlightening.

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6. Many Middle Eastern countries base their laws and social conduct on Islamic doctrine, and that seems to have been commented upon. Western laws and social conduct are based upon Christian doctrine. There are many atheists here levering their opinions of Islam against subsumed Christian principles, and they don't know they are doing it. It does not bode well for atheism that people cannot recognise the relative religious positions they are arguing from.

Much of Western law, governance, and social institutions are based on Enlightenment thinking and values.

Christianity does not support free speech, freedom of conscience, democracy, and on and on.

Christianity is more like Islam than not.