RE: No rational case for God = increasingly desperate attacks on atheists
July 10, 2014 at 10:14 am
(July 10, 2014 at 10:06 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote:(July 10, 2014 at 10:03 am)ManMachine Wrote: Logic is not a value system, it is only a framework on which we hang facts about our world.
Religious institutions have survived for thousands of years, it's true that they are significantly different, of that I'm sure, Christianity today is nothing like Christianity of the 5 century BCE, but they will never be 'out of people'. They will be different, but they will persist, you can bet you eyes on that.
MM
Meh, there were religious systems before Christianity that lasted for much longer and are utterly dead today. I'm more optimistic that with the huge access to urnestricted information that the internet and mass communication provides, Christianity will go the way of Ra and Thor and Zeus, or at least transform so much that it's not even recognizable as Christianity at all.
I think you and I would both agree Judaeo/Christianity did not spring into existence out of nowhere. Probably originated in Canaanite pantheon, which itself was probably built on Babylonian or Sumerian religions, and so on back into the mists of history.
And in centuries time I'm sure Christianity will not look like it does today (assuming we survive that long as a species).
Notwithstanding, it will persist in some form.
MM
"The greatest deception men suffer is from their own opinions" - Leonardo da Vinci
"I think I use the term “radical” rather loosely, just for emphasis. If you describe yourself as “atheist,” some people will say, “Don’t you mean ‘agnostic’?” I have to reply that I really do mean atheist, I really do not believe that there is a god; in fact, I am convinced that there is not a god (a subtle difference). I see not a shred of evidence to suggest that there is one ... etc., etc. It’s easier to say that I am a radical atheist, just to signal that I really mean it, have thought about it a great deal, and that it’s an opinion I hold seriously." - Douglas Adams (and I echo the sentiment)
"I think I use the term “radical” rather loosely, just for emphasis. If you describe yourself as “atheist,” some people will say, “Don’t you mean ‘agnostic’?” I have to reply that I really do mean atheist, I really do not believe that there is a god; in fact, I am convinced that there is not a god (a subtle difference). I see not a shred of evidence to suggest that there is one ... etc., etc. It’s easier to say that I am a radical atheist, just to signal that I really mean it, have thought about it a great deal, and that it’s an opinion I hold seriously." - Douglas Adams (and I echo the sentiment)
