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Rational Theism
May 1, 2018 at 7:01 pm
At first glance for the atheist, that seems a contradiction in terms.
Let us imagine for merely an instance that there is such a thing.
The first thing I want to know is how does the rationalism present itself? In what way according to biblical scripture that reads more like Grimm's fairy tales.
Let us make that the start for the thread.
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RE: Rational Theism
May 1, 2018 at 7:22 pm
(This post was last modified: May 1, 2018 at 7:23 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Why would rational theism be informed by magic book at all? If that's what jumps out..when trying to determine how theism could be rational, then we might find it useful to remind ourselves that magic book's problems are magic books problem. Not gods problem.
The god of classical theism so beloved by believing rationalizers..... was a pagan god, after all.
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RE: Rational Theism
May 1, 2018 at 7:26 pm
(May 1, 2018 at 7:22 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Why would rational theism be informed by magic book at all? If that's what jumps out..when trying to determine how theism could be rational, then we might find it useful to remind ourselves that magic book's problems are magic books problem. Not gods problem.
The god of classical theism so beloved by believing rationalizers..... was a pagan god, after all.
Because those who accept biblical theism as real do not accept fictional writings as real.
Umm, I think you're confusing classical with modern.
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RE: Rational Theism
May 1, 2018 at 7:26 pm
Yep, oxymoron from where I sit, but I'm sure not for them.
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RE: Rational Theism
May 1, 2018 at 7:27 pm
(May 1, 2018 at 7:26 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Yep, oxymoron from where I sit, but I'm sure not for them.
The one who gets it.
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RE: Rational Theism
May 1, 2018 at 7:29 pm
(May 1, 2018 at 7:27 pm)Kit Wrote: (May 1, 2018 at 7:26 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Yep, oxymoron from where I sit, but I'm sure not for them.
The one who gets it.
You, me or them?
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RE: Rational Theism
May 1, 2018 at 7:30 pm
(May 1, 2018 at 7:29 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: (May 1, 2018 at 7:27 pm)Kit Wrote: The one who gets it.
You, me or them?
Isn't that an interesting question.
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RE: Rational Theism
May 1, 2018 at 7:31 pm
(May 1, 2018 at 7:30 pm)Kit Wrote: (May 1, 2018 at 7:29 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: You, me or them?
Isn't that an interesting question.
A rational biblical theist would have found a way to depart from this world already.
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RE: Rational Theism
May 1, 2018 at 7:33 pm
(May 1, 2018 at 7:31 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: (May 1, 2018 at 7:30 pm)Kit Wrote: Isn't that an interesting question.
A rational biblical theist would have found a way to depart from this world already.
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RE: Rational Theism
May 1, 2018 at 7:42 pm
(May 1, 2018 at 7:33 pm)Kit Wrote: (May 1, 2018 at 7:31 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: A rational biblical theist would have found a way to depart from this world already.
Self harm is not an option, but creatively....
If an theist is truly rational, how can he regard what gets him to heaven as being harmful?
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