RE: No rational case for God = increasingly desperate attacks on atheists
July 11, 2014 at 2:01 am
(This post was last modified: July 11, 2014 at 2:08 am by Whateverist.)
(July 10, 2014 at 3:52 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote:(July 10, 2014 at 11:31 am)whateverist Wrote: I don't disagree with anything you've said, Simon. But I do think it is okay to criticize the minority atheist view that gods do not exist. There are plenty of 7's around and many of these seem to suffer from the same debilitating symptoms of fundamentalism as their theist counterparts.
A 7 is a person who claims to KNOW there are no such things as unicorns, leprechauns, garden faeries, or supermen/gods in reality? And you're claiming these people are on par with those who say, "I know Jesus is God and that he will come back to rapture the church" or "I know there is one God and Muhammad is his prophet?"
Nope. I said many of them suffer from the same fundamentalist habits. It makes a difference. I haven't equated them. I haven't said that every 7 will have these issues. I've said many do. My impression is that both groups have a blindness to shades of grey and no ear for nuance. There also seems to be an over eagerness to diminish the best points made for the opposite side, almost a fear of taking them in. Both utilize critical thinking to defend settled positions rather than to follow new leads where they may go.
After all, when it comes to fundy gods I am a 7 myself. I believe those do not exist. I remain open to finding out what else they may be from the perspective of those theists who do not impose a nonsensical, literal interpretation on their experience.
(July 10, 2014 at 3:52 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: That's ridiculous. Even the atheist who claims to know there is no god in the same way they know the moon is not made of cheese is on much firmer ground to make that assertion than any believer has EVER been.
You're using hyperbole to overstate your case and fend off what you don't want to hear. Why do that?
