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(July 10, 2014 at 9:58 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: The Russian position on homosexuality is based upon the fact that the Russian population is declining. It needs more babies. They figure that if they can get more people to have more kids they will be able to maintain a strong country. Therefore the spread of homosexuality is a national security issue for them. Their national identity could cease to exist fairly soon unless the trend is reversed.
(July 11, 2014 at 5:41 am)Blackout Wrote: It's anti-gay or anti-traditional family as the law puts it, it's illegal to spread information incentiving people to be gay and promoting gay lifestyle, but I don't think it's illegal to make peaceful protest for gay rights and talk about it with adults. Anyway, Putin said it best when he mentioned comparing Russian with countries where being gay gets you the death penalty is of no use. In Russia being gay is not even a noun, it's a verb, it's considered a behavior that is contagious and can be prevented.
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To spread information to minors. Yes it's illegal but if they abstain from spreading information or 'propaganda' they will be fine, even the jail time is not very high, most people will just pay fines, Russia needs to fix it but they still are better than third world countries where being gay inside your house is a crime. I don't think gays will be persecuted if they abstain from spreading information, sure there are some videos of people beating and humiliating gays in Russia but not all Russian people would do that. I think not doing the WC just because Russians don't like gays is stupid, it's not a significant issue enough to ensure we abstain from doing the world cup here. If they had severe violations of human rights that would be another problem
All I see here is excuse after excuse for intolerance.
Should a society tolerate murderers, thieves, arsonists, rapists? By criminalizing homosexuality the Russians are saying that the activity is voluntary and therefore a national security concern because it reduces the needed population growth.
If the behavior is genetic then it can be considered to be a birth defect, which might be cured. So do you want people to be subjected to all kinds of lab experiments or do you want them to be imprisoned? Simply leaving them alone to do what they want to do doesn't seem to be an option.
People do not have freedom when they live in a group. Someone will always tell you what you can and can't do. You will conform or be punished.
