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Apparently football is a sin now
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RE: Apparently football is a sin now
Quote:You are.
I'm not. I said I was against Russia's anti-gay law from the beginning, I merely pointed out there are more severe cases
Quote:Would you think it's acceptable to host the world cup in a country that treats black people as second class citizens? Or would you think that the governing body who makes those decisions should have a moral obligation to give the world cup to a country that treats its citizens as equals?
No, but if the Crimea crisis didn't justify banning the world cup I doubt gay people having less freedom of expression will justify it. What about Qatar? What if we hosted it in Turkey? Maybe FIFA would accept it and they have problems with human rights, it's far worse to be gay in Turkey. I'll stick to my point, as long as the law is not enforced on athletes, I don't see a reason to not host the world cup if they have financial conditions and good stadiums. I don't care about their politics.
Quote:You're completely missing the point. Neither option is acceptable. What you're doing is saying one if fine and nobody should care because the alternatives are far worse. It may be true that the alternatives are worse, but it doesn't make it any better to be oppressed. So again, quit justifying oppression.
I'm not justifying oppression, will you stop putting words in my mouth? You said it right, alternatives are worse. If you are in Russian and are gay, my advice to you is either deal with the law or emigrate (the last one would be better). i'm not saying this isn't bad, but considering the practical situations and the fact russian doesn't give a shit about international organizations, what alternative is there? How many people will die fighting for rights?
Quote:Because peaceful protests always go well in Russia. Do you even watch the news?
As a matter of fact I do. You just corroborated my views, if protests are useless and so is breaking the law, what alternative (viable and possible according to Russia's government and people) is there? I'm still waiting to know
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you

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Apparently football is a sin now - by Dystopia - July 10, 2014 at 7:06 pm
RE: Apparently football is a sin now - by The Valkyrie - July 10, 2014 at 7:12 pm
RE: Apparently football is a sin now - by AtheistMark - July 10, 2014 at 9:21 pm
RE: Apparently football is a sin now - by atheist04330 - July 10, 2014 at 7:16 pm
RE: Apparently football is a sin now - by Elskidor - July 10, 2014 at 7:27 pm
RE: Apparently football is a sin now - by Lek - July 10, 2014 at 7:30 pm
RE: Apparently football is a sin now - by The Valkyrie - July 10, 2014 at 7:42 pm
RE: Apparently football is a sin now - by Lek - July 10, 2014 at 7:55 pm
RE: Apparently football is a sin now - by The Valkyrie - July 10, 2014 at 7:58 pm
RE: Apparently football is a sin now - by Lek - July 10, 2014 at 8:14 pm
RE: Apparently football is a sin now - by Napoléon - July 10, 2014 at 8:37 pm
RE: Apparently football is a sin now - by Napoléon - July 10, 2014 at 7:31 pm
RE: Apparently football is a sin now - by Lek - July 10, 2014 at 7:41 pm
RE: Apparently football is a sin now - by Napoléon - July 10, 2014 at 8:15 pm
RE: Apparently football is a sin now - by atheist04330 - July 10, 2014 at 7:50 pm
RE: Apparently football is a sin now - by Dystopia - July 10, 2014 at 8:41 pm
RE: Apparently football is a sin now - by Napoléon - July 10, 2014 at 8:54 pm
RE: Apparently football is a sin now - by Wyrd of Gawd - July 10, 2014 at 9:58 pm
RE: Apparently football is a sin now - by Dystopia - July 11, 2014 at 5:41 am
RE: Apparently football is a sin now - by Mr Greene - July 11, 2014 at 7:55 am
RE: Apparently football is a sin now - by rexbeccarox - July 10, 2014 at 7:42 pm
RE: Apparently football is a sin now - by Wyrd of Gawd - July 10, 2014 at 7:46 pm
RE: Apparently football is a sin now - by Minimalist - July 10, 2014 at 8:20 pm
RE: Apparently football is a sin now - by ignoramus - July 10, 2014 at 8:41 pm
RE: Apparently football is a sin now - by Minimalist - July 10, 2014 at 8:48 pm
RE: Apparently football is a sin now - by Elskidor - July 10, 2014 at 8:57 pm
RE: Apparently football is a sin now - by Lek - July 10, 2014 at 9:15 pm
RE: Apparently football is a sin now - by Minimalist - July 10, 2014 at 9:41 pm
RE: Apparently football is a sin now - by popeyespappy - July 10, 2014 at 10:53 pm
RE: Apparently football is a sin now - by Wyrd of Gawd - July 10, 2014 at 11:29 pm
RE: Apparently football is a sin now - by Minimalist - July 10, 2014 at 11:43 pm
RE: Apparently football is a sin now - by Cinjin - July 10, 2014 at 11:50 pm
RE: Apparently football is a sin now - by Napoléon - July 11, 2014 at 7:20 am
RE: Apparently football is a sin now - by Dystopia - July 11, 2014 at 7:47 am
RE: Apparently football is a sin now - by Napoléon - July 11, 2014 at 8:30 am
RE: Apparently football is a sin now - by Dystopia - July 11, 2014 at 8:34 am
RE: Apparently football is a sin now - by Wyrd of Gawd - July 11, 2014 at 4:34 pm
RE: Apparently football is a sin now - by Dystopia - July 11, 2014 at 4:39 pm
RE: Apparently football is a sin now - by Dystopia - July 11, 2014 at 6:41 pm
RE: Apparently football is a sin now - by Dystopia - July 11, 2014 at 6:48 pm
RE: Apparently football is a sin now - by Dystopia - July 11, 2014 at 6:55 pm
RE: Apparently football is a sin now - by Dystopia - July 11, 2014 at 7:01 pm
RE: Apparently football is a sin now - by Napoléon - July 11, 2014 at 7:13 pm
RE: Apparently football is a sin now - by Dystopia - July 11, 2014 at 7:38 pm
RE: Apparently football is a sin now - by Napoléon - July 11, 2014 at 7:44 pm
RE: Apparently football is a sin now - by Dystopia - July 11, 2014 at 7:54 pm
RE: Apparently football is a sin now - by Dystopia - July 11, 2014 at 7:57 pm
RE: Apparently football is a sin now - by Napoléon - July 11, 2014 at 7:59 pm
RE: Apparently football is a sin now - by Dystopia - July 11, 2014 at 8:00 pm
RE: Apparently football is a sin now - by Napoléon - July 11, 2014 at 8:03 pm
RE: Apparently football is a sin now - by Dystopia - July 11, 2014 at 8:06 pm
RE: Apparently football is a sin now - by Napoléon - July 11, 2014 at 8:07 pm
RE: Apparently football is a sin now - by Dystopia - July 11, 2014 at 8:11 pm
RE: Apparently football is a sin now - by Napoléon - July 11, 2014 at 8:12 pm
RE: Apparently football is a sin now - by Dystopia - July 11, 2014 at 8:16 pm
RE: Apparently football is a sin now - by Dystopia - July 11, 2014 at 8:36 pm

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