RE: No rational case for God = increasingly desperate attacks on atheists
July 16, 2014 at 8:21 pm
(July 16, 2014 at 7:04 pm)Cato Wrote:(July 16, 2014 at 6:56 pm)ManMachine Wrote: How is the separation of state and religious institutions the same as making something less strict, they are two totally different concepts.
Please, are you seriously attempting to hide behind secularism's political manifestation to save your point? Gray certainly isn't restricting his use of the term in this manner.
That's exactly what he is saying. In the article all but two cases where he talks about secularism he is talking about it in a political context, there are, as I say, two exceptions, one where he talks about secular myths (his comment of secular ideology) and the other where he takes a brief look at some historical secular philosophy, but neither of these deviate from the political theme he is following.
MM
"The greatest deception men suffer is from their own opinions" - Leonardo da Vinci
"I think I use the term “radical” rather loosely, just for emphasis. If you describe yourself as “atheist,” some people will say, “Don’t you mean ‘agnostic’?” I have to reply that I really do mean atheist, I really do not believe that there is a god; in fact, I am convinced that there is not a god (a subtle difference). I see not a shred of evidence to suggest that there is one ... etc., etc. It’s easier to say that I am a radical atheist, just to signal that I really mean it, have thought about it a great deal, and that it’s an opinion I hold seriously." - Douglas Adams (and I echo the sentiment)
"I think I use the term “radical” rather loosely, just for emphasis. If you describe yourself as “atheist,” some people will say, “Don’t you mean ‘agnostic’?” I have to reply that I really do mean atheist, I really do not believe that there is a god; in fact, I am convinced that there is not a god (a subtle difference). I see not a shred of evidence to suggest that there is one ... etc., etc. It’s easier to say that I am a radical atheist, just to signal that I really mean it, have thought about it a great deal, and that it’s an opinion I hold seriously." - Douglas Adams (and I echo the sentiment)