Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.

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fire is greater than burning.
the cause always precedes the effect; therefore the effect is dependent on the cause which makes the cause > effect.

Sheesh, Dolphinetics is so irritating! Your original argument was that the cause was greater than the effect. Now you're leaping to the rather lacklustre deepity about effects following causes, which wasn't the reason I posted my response and you know it. What's that bit about bearing false witness, again..?

Regardless, as I understand it (which means I might be wrong) the whole cause and effect thing only really applies to our four-dimensional perception of the Universe. On the quantum scale, that may in fact be what's termed an optional extra.

it's not a perception, the universe is physically 4 dim's where cause and effect is a scientific principle where no human has ever witness an effect without a cause.