RE: Destroying the theory of evolution in one post
December 21, 2008 at 2:22 am
(This post was last modified: December 21, 2008 at 2:26 am by bodhitharta.)
(December 21, 2008 at 1:03 am)lukec Wrote: The problem here is that you are not even talking about evolution- evolution, as has been said before many different places, is only the fact that organisms change throughout time. This fact is well documented by the fossil record, and by genetic testing, and is fact. The theory of evolution, which I assume you also disagree with, is a well-established one which explains how exactly these changes come to happen. What you disagree with, here, is the idea of abiogenesis.
Consider for a moment the idea that the first replicating molecule may not have been living. Have you heard of prions? These are self-replicating proteins. NOT even RNA or DNA here, I'm talking proteins. If the first "thing" which began self-replication was merely a string of, say for simplicity's sake, amino acids, then it would need neither metabolism nor waste management.
Original ideas, please.
You misunderstand what I am saying, perhaps you should review the information again.
I am not talking about abiogenesis. I am talking about living organisms. Only living organisms would be able to evolve but to evolve such an organism would need to metabolize, manage waste and reproduce it would also have the capacity to achieve these functions.
Since this is true it is logical to conclude that these functions were "created" from the beginning.
For instance, if I asked you to explain the evolution of the Gag reflex you would not be able to give a definitive answer.
(December 21, 2008 at 1:04 am)solidsquid Wrote: Evolution as in the biological theory of evolution, by definition, only deals with life - an precursor is outside of its intended explanatory framework. So, no Bodhi, this doesn't "destroy" evolution. Didn't we go over this a while back when the Atheist Coalition site was around?
I am only talking about "living" organisms.
BTW, I'm not certain but if I remember you correctly you were graduating the last time we communicated, right?
I hope your doing well, your a very intelligent person