(July 25, 2014 at 6:09 pm)Luckie Wrote: I'm sorry you're not following me, Stat.
So there was no death before Cain and Able's fiasco is that what you're saying? Or perhaps when god clothed them he had to kill an animal. Before that, before 'the fall', death is negligible yes?
There was no death prior to the fall, that’s correct (Old-Earth Christians would not agree with this but you’re talking to me ).
Quote: So Adam and Eve had no idea the consequences of their actions.
I do not think that follows, they could still know what death was without ever seeing it take place. I am still not seeing the significance here though; if God had only said, “or else something very bad will happen” wouldn’t they still be sinning by disobeying him? I do not see how knowing or not knowing the consequences is relevant when the sin is the act of disobedience itself. Eve should have simply said, “No I will not eat of that tree because God told me not to.”