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A little bit of a personal crisis
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RE: A little bit of a personal crisis
(July 25, 2014 at 6:08 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: Sure there is a path to truth, or at least a path to what is likely to be true. That is a method that follows demonstrable evidence, reasoned argument and valid/sound logic.

There are only paths to what seem true to you. Demonstrability, argument, and logic... meet subjectivity, sensibility, and circuity. You convince yourself that you know what is, when all of that is only your confidence... you know many things, and to you these are true.

But to the universe, you know only facsimile.

Quote:Do you disagree that using the above method is the most reliable method to use to assure your beliefs map accurately reality?

Reliable here and now? Perhaps. So reliable there, or yonder? So reliable then, or later? Perhaps not.

And really, how would you know? You are so small, insignificant... on a speck within a speck you are but a speck. What you know, and what is, are the difference between your reality, and reality.

Quote:The truth is extremely meaningful to me. I care whether my beliefs are true, or at least likely to be true. I also want to eliminate from my mind as many false beliefs as possible.

Then... what is 'the truth', and how could I possibly understand it? I am myself so small as you, and the closer I come to understanding the nature of all: the further I am from understanding the true nature of all.

All things are true... somewhere, somewhen, someone... somewhat, if something somehow is not true HERE or NOW or THIS... it is true THERE or THEN or THAT.

That which we see is not that which is ultimately, unless we happen to be incredibly lucky such to see truth though it be utterly imperceptible to us.

Quote:Truth is not subjective. Are you one of those people that thinks that everyone has 'their own truth'?

Everything is true. It cannot be any other way, assuming logic be the way we believe. Even should everything constitute nothing whatsoever, it would STILL be true, because everything exists. Everything must be for any something to be.

Everyone believes they have their own truth, whether they believe that truth applies to others or only to them. I understand the limitations of a sensing being... and we have no more an understanding of the objective universe than a microbe would have of our intersubjective one.

And that... is certainly true, whether or not it convinces you.

Quote:A great method for meditation, and the advantages that come from that.

A bad method to test if an existential claim is true.

If embracing silence told someone it is true that they can fly, would you let them jump off a high building?

Embracing silence would likely involve such a jump, and ultimately, Vex is right, to an extent. We are made of star stuff... and when we go to rot, other beings are made of us.

Vex fails to understand that it isn't about one spirit coming together in reincarnation... it is of a universe that is ONE, and shall always be ONE. The differences that we see, individuality... illusory.

Quote:Not sure what this means?

It means I appreciate my collection, and enjoy boasting to other Deadgods.
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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A little bit of a personal crisis - by SilentVex - July 24, 2014 at 11:13 pm
RE: A little bit of a personal crisis - by Violet - July 24, 2014 at 11:18 pm
RE: A little bit of a personal crisis - by vorlon13 - July 24, 2014 at 11:19 pm
RE: A little bit of a personal crisis - by CindysRain - July 24, 2014 at 11:20 pm
RE: A little bit of a personal crisis - by ignoramus - July 24, 2014 at 11:49 pm
RE: A little bit of a personal crisis - by Jenny A - July 24, 2014 at 11:51 pm
RE: A little bit of a personal crisis - by vorlon13 - July 24, 2014 at 11:59 pm
RE: A little bit of a personal crisis - by Ravenshire - July 25, 2014 at 12:04 am
RE: A little bit of a personal crisis - by Violet - July 25, 2014 at 12:04 am
RE: A little bit of a personal crisis - by KichigaiNeko - July 25, 2014 at 3:39 am
RE: A little bit of a personal crisis - by Bad Wolf - July 25, 2014 at 4:24 am
RE: A little bit of a personal crisis - by popeyespappy - July 25, 2014 at 5:21 am
RE: A little bit of a personal crisis - by ignoramus - July 25, 2014 at 6:51 am
RE: A little bit of a personal crisis - by SilentVex - July 25, 2014 at 9:47 am
RE: A little bit of a personal crisis - by Bad Wolf - July 25, 2014 at 10:31 am
RE: A little bit of a personal crisis - by SilentVex - July 25, 2014 at 12:00 pm
RE: A little bit of a personal crisis - by Bad Wolf - July 25, 2014 at 1:36 pm
RE: A little bit of a personal crisis - by vodkafan - July 25, 2014 at 6:51 am
RE: A little bit of a personal crisis - by Whateverist - July 25, 2014 at 9:10 am
RE: A little bit of a personal crisis - by Whateverist - July 25, 2014 at 12:18 pm
RE: A little bit of a personal crisis - by Dystopia - July 25, 2014 at 9:19 am
RE: A little bit of a personal crisis - by ManMachine - July 25, 2014 at 9:23 am
RE: A little bit of a personal crisis - by Minimalist - July 25, 2014 at 12:07 pm
RE: A little bit of a personal crisis - by SilentVex - July 25, 2014 at 12:17 pm
RE: A little bit of a personal crisis - by Simon Moon - July 25, 2014 at 12:38 pm
RE: A little bit of a personal crisis - by SilentVex - July 25, 2014 at 12:53 pm
RE: A little bit of a personal crisis - by Simon Moon - July 25, 2014 at 1:15 pm
RE: A little bit of a personal crisis - by SilentVex - July 25, 2014 at 1:29 pm
RE: A little bit of a personal crisis - by SilentVex - July 25, 2014 at 1:40 pm
RE: A little bit of a personal crisis - by SilentVex - July 25, 2014 at 1:55 pm
RE: A little bit of a personal crisis - by Cato - July 25, 2014 at 1:59 pm
RE: A little bit of a personal crisis - by Simon Moon - July 25, 2014 at 1:57 pm
RE: A little bit of a personal crisis - by Minimalist - July 25, 2014 at 12:46 pm
RE: A little bit of a personal crisis - by Minimalist - July 25, 2014 at 12:56 pm
RE: A little bit of a personal crisis - by Crossless1 - July 25, 2014 at 1:45 pm
RE: A little bit of a personal crisis - by Simon Moon - July 25, 2014 at 2:52 pm
RE: A little bit of a personal crisis - by Violet - July 25, 2014 at 5:25 pm
RE: A little bit of a personal crisis - by Simon Moon - July 25, 2014 at 6:08 pm
RE: A little bit of a personal crisis - by Violet - July 25, 2014 at 7:50 pm
RE: A little bit of a personal crisis - by Simon Moon - July 26, 2014 at 7:43 pm
RE: A little bit of a personal crisis - by Violet - July 27, 2014 at 1:37 am
RE: A little bit of a personal crisis - by ignoramus - July 25, 2014 at 7:18 pm
RE: A little bit of a personal crisis - by Mr Greene - July 27, 2014 at 3:53 pm

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