Evidence God Exists: Part II

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Paul, I think what AngelThMan is saying is that, science will never, ever create life synthetic or otherwise, completely from scratch. As in, with no tools or equipment of any kind whatsoever. Essentially, it is impossible for a human being to just create life with nothing but his bare hands and his mind.* Doing this might be rather interesting and, if it were done, would still prove nothing about God except that it is in fact possible to create life from scratch in the first place. It lends more to God than against Him.

*We are discounting a certain natural body function here.

In that case, I guess mankind has never really cured any diseases.

You realize that scientific discovery is made with nothing but bare hands and minds? We do have to make tools along the way, as we don't rely on the principle of "magicmandunit" to guide our endeavors.

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Who says creating life frmom scratch would require tools and equipment on a human being's part? Why do we require such things to create life from non-living material? If a man created life with simply his hands and mind, would not those things be his 'tools'? Were there a scientific explanation behind his creation of life with nothing but hands and mind, would it still be magic? Is it any less magic because there is an explanation behind it? Not the way I see it. No more than the color blue stops being blue once you explain how it got to be that way.

Still blue, still magic.

And if we couldn't create life from literal scratch, with neither tools nor equipment, how would it go a long way in supporting the idea that God is not necessary in the first place? If anything, I would think it shows the opposite! It shows that without tools or without equipment, life cannot be created by any one or any thing but God.

So science creates life and you rationalize it by saying it wasn't real because we used tools? Are you fucking serious?

What exactly are you arguing here? You'd have to ignore all of human civilization to make such a shitfaced assertion that the necessity of tools is somehow a BAD thing. The creation of life isn't something only explained by the supernatural, so stop trying to move the goalposts and recognize the achievement for what it is.

If they came across a cure for cancer, would you call it illegitimate because they didn't form it from dust with a magic wand?