RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.)
July 30, 2014 at 6:58 am
(This post was last modified: July 30, 2014 at 7:08 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(July 28, 2014 at 8:39 pm)bennyboy Wrote: I'm not talking about whether experience is or isn't subjective. Of course it is. I'm talking about why there IS a subjective anything rather than a lack of it.Because the requirements are damned low....and it's a big universe? Think we touched on that a few pages back?
Quote:What about this universe, which is supposed to be a deterministic interplay of four fundemental forces and energy in different states over time, requires/allows anything like a subjective perspective?That it is a universe in which experience can exist, and a universe which has within it entities who possess the equipment to avail themselves of that. Low bar. What about those four fundamental forces, or deterministic interplay...would make this seem strange?
Quote:So what color are x-rays? To a computer which has a physical apparatus which can measure them, they presumably are not a color at all. Just input, processing, output.That's a good question. I don't know how we would experience that, if we could. There are certainly some fairly interesting arrangements in this world. Dogs can "smell" atomic weight, for example. We don't think of it like that - but that's what bomb sniffing dogs are doing. Bats "see" sound. "Color" -is- "processing".
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