RE: refuting misconceptions:1-women in Islam
May 30, 2010 at 4:43 am
(This post was last modified: May 30, 2010 at 4:54 am by mo3taz3nbar.)
Regarding the question asked before about beating your wife(Quran 4:34):
This case is an exception but the general relations in marriage see my first post
But I will get in little more details as I feel that I have to clarify
The exception: disobedient the word used in Arabic is a very bad word referring to woman doing very bad things that is impossible that u can continue your life like that
So there are 3 steps in this situation
First: advice them the Arabic word used is more like preach them or try to change them by talking to them for a long time if that didn’t work then
Second: don't sleep in the same bedroom am asking after how long would the woman start feeling bad for sleeping alone?
These two steps according to most of Muslim scholars take from year to year and half
After all that if she is still don't want to correct whatever she was doing
Third: beat her (the right translation from Arabic will be hit her slightly u can check different translations of the Quran) u cant take the word literally without its explanation by Muhammad (pbuh) himself he said hit her slightly in away that don't leave a sign in the body, not at the face and then he said use this(sewak)its something smaller than a tooth brush so its not about hurting her physically but its like a last warning before divorce
And then he said that whoever does this is not the best of u and later one of his wives explained that he never used the third option
At last I wonder what u guys will do if u finds your wife doing a bad thing (like flirting with strange guys in a bad way that make u angry and she don’t want to stop doing that)
At last I know that some of u will continue talking about this like Islam orders beating your wife and will ignore the explanation of this exception and also will ignore the verses I mentioned under woman as a wife but I did my best explaining this
but i was thinking what will be my decision if i was a ruler of one of these country and i think i will put punishment exactly like the punishment of not wearing the seat built(and thats only my opinion)
This case is an exception but the general relations in marriage see my first post
But I will get in little more details as I feel that I have to clarify
The exception: disobedient the word used in Arabic is a very bad word referring to woman doing very bad things that is impossible that u can continue your life like that
So there are 3 steps in this situation
First: advice them the Arabic word used is more like preach them or try to change them by talking to them for a long time if that didn’t work then
Second: don't sleep in the same bedroom am asking after how long would the woman start feeling bad for sleeping alone?
These two steps according to most of Muslim scholars take from year to year and half
After all that if she is still don't want to correct whatever she was doing
Third: beat her (the right translation from Arabic will be hit her slightly u can check different translations of the Quran) u cant take the word literally without its explanation by Muhammad (pbuh) himself he said hit her slightly in away that don't leave a sign in the body, not at the face and then he said use this(sewak)its something smaller than a tooth brush so its not about hurting her physically but its like a last warning before divorce
And then he said that whoever does this is not the best of u and later one of his wives explained that he never used the third option
At last I wonder what u guys will do if u finds your wife doing a bad thing (like flirting with strange guys in a bad way that make u angry and she don’t want to stop doing that)
At last I know that some of u will continue talking about this like Islam orders beating your wife and will ignore the explanation of this exception and also will ignore the verses I mentioned under woman as a wife but I did my best explaining this
(May 29, 2010 at 7:50 pm)AtheistPhil Wrote:ok this question made me search a lot to know what is exactly happening if a woman is not wearing hijab in one of these countries and what shariah says about that and i really find nothing except a website that claims that they do nothing they just ask them nicely to wear hijab(and am not sure about that)(May 29, 2010 at 6:40 pm)mo3taz3nbar Wrote: its saudia arabia,iran and afghanistan(not even in all places of these countries)
Could you explain to me how a state could apply the sharia only in some places and not look like a hypocrit ?
Don't forget Sudan and Nigeria. And we'll have to add Somalia if the islamist rebels take over the country.
Anyway those countries make up to 150 millions muslims, but I guess they're all misguided ?
but i was thinking what will be my decision if i was a ruler of one of these country and i think i will put punishment exactly like the punishment of not wearing the seat built(and thats only my opinion)
(May 30, 2010 at 4:28 am)leo-rcc Wrote:thnx(May 29, 2010 at 8:02 pm)AtheistPhil Wrote:(May 29, 2010 at 7:51 pm)mo3taz3nbar Wrote: what do u mean by other beliefs?
Sunni, Shi'a, Ahmadiyya, Sufism, Salafi just to name a few...
These variations within Islam are not different beliefs, they deal with succession after Mohammad's death, and which traditions to follow. You can say about Islam what you want, but their fractions are remarkably more consistent than Christianity.