(August 9, 2014 at 5:38 pm)Blackout Wrote: Italian? Good to see a fellow European. I despise the ECHR's decision of keeping crucifixes in Italian classrooms.
I have never understood that decision. By the constitution, Italy is a secular state: if you want to put religious symbols in the classrooms you either put symbols of all religions or you put none.
When I went to school we'd always put the crucifix away and substitute it with something more appropriate, like a clock.
Tonus Wrote:I thought this part was pretty funny:
Quote:At trial Mr. Mauzy testified that he views this lawsuit as an attack on his religious freedom, thereby reaffirming the impression that the Ten Commandments monument was meant to communicate a religious message.It's embarrassing enough that he was trying to deny that his motive was religious, but to so transparently try to play both sides was the icing on the cake.
Catholics also play this card when it comes to crucifixes in the classroom. They usually say "If you're an atheist, you should not care about it because you don't believe in anything".
What I think this kind of people (wherever they are) fail to understand is that freedom of religion means you are free to worship and to display your faith individually without fearing repression from the State.
That means that in order to grant this level of protection to all religions, the State must remain neutral and secular, and all public institutions such as schools, tribunals etc. should reflect its neutrality by not displaying any religious symbol.
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Fact: Every time you eat a bite of cake, someone gets horsewhipped.
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Vote "yes" on Proposition 1321. Think of some kids. Some kids."
Fact: Every time you eat a bite of cake, someone gets horsewhipped.
Facter: Every time two people kiss, an orphanage collapses.
Factest: Every time a baby is born, an innocent animal is severely mocked for its physical appearance. Don't be a pleasure hog. Your every smile is a dagger. Happiness is murder.
Vote "yes" on Proposition 1321. Think of some kids. Some kids."