I've been doing a bit of online research into this myself and have found that the Muslim religion itself does not appear to be the primary source of the oppression of women in primarily Muslim countries. It is the culture and/or society itself that enforces such barbaric practices and those practices vary greatly from culture to culture (nation to nation).
So, the things that we western infidels find repugnant about Islamic culture cannot be entirely blamed on the religion itself. I think that mo3 has been trying to make that particular point. That does not mean that we hold any misconceptions. The atrocities that we have heard about are real, but they are not spread throughout the entirety of Muslim societies. Some are far more modernized and liberal in their approach. However, by western infidel standards, these 'more liberal' cultures still seem, at the least old-fashioned, and at worst barbaric. 'Not As Bad' does not equal 'Good'.
There is no justification for the way some Islamic cultures treat women. That is not a misconception. Not all Islamic cultures are guilty of the worst of it, so to think so would be a misconception. I think this issue is moot now. mo3 has shown (in his way) that his religion doesn't necessarily condone some of the barbaric practices we hear about, but he cannot change the truth, which is that these things do happen.
I request a change of topic, mo3. Personally, I'd like to hear a Muslim's take on suicide bombings, terrorism in general, and the 'kill all infidels' mentality of Jihadis.
So, the things that we western infidels find repugnant about Islamic culture cannot be entirely blamed on the religion itself. I think that mo3 has been trying to make that particular point. That does not mean that we hold any misconceptions. The atrocities that we have heard about are real, but they are not spread throughout the entirety of Muslim societies. Some are far more modernized and liberal in their approach. However, by western infidel standards, these 'more liberal' cultures still seem, at the least old-fashioned, and at worst barbaric. 'Not As Bad' does not equal 'Good'.
There is no justification for the way some Islamic cultures treat women. That is not a misconception. Not all Islamic cultures are guilty of the worst of it, so to think so would be a misconception. I think this issue is moot now. mo3 has shown (in his way) that his religion doesn't necessarily condone some of the barbaric practices we hear about, but he cannot change the truth, which is that these things do happen.
I request a change of topic, mo3. Personally, I'd like to hear a Muslim's take on suicide bombings, terrorism in general, and the 'kill all infidels' mentality of Jihadis.