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The ethics if factory farming
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RE: The ethics if factory farming
(August 10, 2014 at 5:17 pm)Natachan Wrote: The doctors who treat my family?

I've read the literature from those organizations, a few tend to scatter them around campus and in the library. Some of their pamphlets from the PCRM either contain bad science or outright lie about the nutritional value of meat.

Meanwhile webmd, American diabetes association, and the mayo clinic all agree that red meat properly prepared is good for you, and that processed and starchy carbs are death.

Show me some links from webmd, American diabetes association, and the mayo clinic that red meat is good for diabetes.

What bad science was in the links I provided? Red meat has been consistently found to be associated with increased risk of diabetes.

For example Pan et al showed by looking at 4,033,322 person-years of follow-up that substitutions of one serving of nuts, low-fat dairy, and whole grains per day for one serving of red meat per day were associated with a 16–35% lower risk of type II diabetes And again in their 2013 study that Compared with stable consumption, increasing intake of more than 0.50 servings per day within a 4-year period was associated with a 65% (pooled HR, 1.65; 95% CI, 1.48-1.84) elevated risk of developing T2DM in the subsequent 4-year interval among nonobese individuals.

Oh, but maybe its just the fat right? Well Montonen et al found that "elevated body iron stores below the levels observed in haemochromatosis are associated with higher risk of type 2 diabetes independently of established risk factors and a range of diabetes biomarkers". What cause high iron stores? Yep, red meat. Even lean red meat.

Vegans on the other have a approx. 70% reduced risk of T2 diabetes. Make of it what you will but I think you should go and talk to your doctor about what more recent evidence says regarding diet and diabetes, and you certainly should not be avoiding complex carbs like beans.
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The ethics if factory farming - by Natachan - August 1, 2014 at 2:38 pm
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by Dystopia - August 1, 2014 at 2:43 pm
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by KUSA - August 1, 2014 at 3:08 pm
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by Anomalocaris - August 1, 2014 at 3:23 pm
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2014 at 5:02 pm
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by KUSA - August 1, 2014 at 5:04 pm
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by ShaMan - August 1, 2014 at 5:05 pm
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by Minimalist - August 1, 2014 at 8:05 pm
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by ShaMan - August 1, 2014 at 8:10 pm
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2014 at 5:17 pm
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by ShaMan - August 1, 2014 at 5:47 pm
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2014 at 5:54 pm
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by ShaMan - August 1, 2014 at 6:04 pm
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by bennyboy - August 1, 2014 at 6:11 pm
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by Natachan - August 3, 2014 at 11:23 am
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by bennyboy - August 3, 2014 at 12:37 pm
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by Anomalocaris - August 3, 2014 at 2:33 pm
The ethics if factory farming - by Bibliofagus - August 1, 2014 at 6:31 pm
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by Amalynne0 - August 1, 2014 at 6:41 pm
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by Cato - August 3, 2014 at 12:46 pm
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by Natachan - August 3, 2014 at 1:01 pm
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by bennyboy - August 3, 2014 at 2:29 pm
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by James2014 - August 4, 2014 at 6:32 pm
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by Cato - August 5, 2014 at 5:57 am
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by Anomalocaris - August 3, 2014 at 2:20 pm
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by bennyboy - August 3, 2014 at 3:01 pm
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by Natachan - August 4, 2014 at 8:11 pm
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by bennyboy - August 4, 2014 at 8:41 pm
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by Natachan - August 4, 2014 at 8:59 pm
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by bennyboy - August 5, 2014 at 2:24 am
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by Ben Davis - August 5, 2014 at 5:33 am
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by bennyboy - August 5, 2014 at 9:06 am
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by James2014 - August 10, 2014 at 5:06 pm
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by The Grand Nudger - August 4, 2014 at 11:11 pm
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by KUSA - August 5, 2014 at 7:04 am
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by Jackalope - August 5, 2014 at 11:45 am
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by Cato - August 5, 2014 at 12:15 pm
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by Mudhammam - August 5, 2014 at 2:00 pm
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by The Grand Nudger - August 5, 2014 at 9:26 am
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by bennyboy - August 5, 2014 at 10:07 am
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by Ben Davis - August 5, 2014 at 10:28 am
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by The Grand Nudger - August 5, 2014 at 10:19 am
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by bennyboy - August 5, 2014 at 10:28 am
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by The Grand Nudger - August 5, 2014 at 11:09 am
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by bennyboy - August 5, 2014 at 6:15 pm
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by Mudhammam - August 5, 2014 at 11:59 am
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by Natachan - August 10, 2014 at 5:17 pm
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by bennyboy - August 11, 2014 at 12:11 am
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by James2014 - August 11, 2014 at 5:18 pm
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by Zack - August 10, 2014 at 6:24 pm
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by The Grand Nudger - August 11, 2014 at 5:29 pm
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by bennyboy - August 13, 2014 at 9:16 am
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by Little lunch - August 11, 2014 at 6:21 pm
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by Natachan - August 11, 2014 at 6:21 pm
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by James2014 - August 12, 2014 at 5:53 pm
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by Natachan - August 12, 2014 at 7:01 pm
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by James2014 - August 13, 2014 at 5:26 pm
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by Little lunch - August 12, 2014 at 7:04 pm
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by Natachan - August 13, 2014 at 7:27 pm
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by bennyboy - August 14, 2014 at 12:00 am
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by Michael - August 14, 2014 at 12:33 pm
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by Natachan - August 14, 2014 at 3:45 pm
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by The Grand Nudger - August 14, 2014 at 1:47 pm
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by bennyboy - August 14, 2014 at 2:00 pm
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by The Grand Nudger - August 14, 2014 at 1:58 pm
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by The Grand Nudger - August 14, 2014 at 2:20 pm
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by bennyboy - August 14, 2014 at 5:35 pm
RE: The ethics if factory farming - by The Grand Nudger - August 14, 2014 at 4:32 pm

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