I found those studies after some searching, and tons like them. "After adjusting for BMI" really stood out. Including hot dogs, bologna, cured meats, and bacon as red meat also stood out. Pastrami is not the same thing as venison and equating them is rather silly.
I am not going to convince you, however, and you are not going to convince me. Problems are that both sides have clear biases. A high protein diet works for me, and I feel really crummy when I go without meat for a while. I can't eat fish (which is what a lot of places recommend) so my only options are poultry and red meat. My diet consists of fresh fruit, raw veggies, some dairy, and grain fed free range meat (and wild game). And this works for me. And there's some data to show that this is a fairly good dietary plan.
I am not going to convince you, however, and you are not going to convince me. Problems are that both sides have clear biases. A high protein diet works for me, and I feel really crummy when I go without meat for a while. I can't eat fish (which is what a lot of places recommend) so my only options are poultry and red meat. My diet consists of fresh fruit, raw veggies, some dairy, and grain fed free range meat (and wild game). And this works for me. And there's some data to show that this is a fairly good dietary plan.
