(August 12, 2014 at 9:46 am)Tonus Wrote:(August 12, 2014 at 9:22 am)Drich Wrote: God answered your prayer.That's kind of what I was referring to. If it works, then god. If it doesn't work, then god. Just fit the explanation to the results, and you confirm the results. But without a way to verify it for all to see, anyone can create an explanation that is self-serving. The explanation that there is no god, and that you find whatever you want to find, works just as well.
Drich Wrote:God is simple not in the business of revealing Himself to us on our terms.Why not? Why would the pre-eminent power in the universe, a being of indescribable strength and unimaginable greatness, be so petty and fickle about letting us know he's there? Especially when he had no issues with revealing himself to people in the past, and making his presence very clear.
I don't understand how it would be ruinous to a person's faith for god to show himself. Wouldn't we be more likely to trust in god if we knew for certain that he exists? Isn't the idea that one day god will reward the faithful by allowing them into his presence? What's so wrong about showing up early?
Yeah that last part is a huge problem I have with a lot of theologian's attempts at explaining God. Apparently if he gave us undeniable evidence of his existence, we would no longer need faith because we would have evidence...which is somehow bad? But, if you speak to theists, many will say they do have incontrovertible and undeniable evidence of God, either through looking at creation or through a personal experience. So..apparently they get to have the revelation that cannot be denied, but I can't?
Also, I don't know why God changed his policy on revealing himself to us, since the number of miracles and godly acts in the Bible is so high. Maybe he just got tired.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
- Thomas Jefferson