(August 12, 2014 at 10:15 am)Drich Wrote:(August 11, 2014 at 11:12 am)FallentoReason Wrote: Why can't God confirm He exists *and* teach us about his true self? I mean, c'mon.. the atheist made it this far already by choosing to humble themselves and sincerely search for God. Is God really going to be that tight and still refuse the atheist a chance at being saved based on a technicality?
Take the word "God" out as the subject of your question and insert the word 'truth' or better yet the word evolution.
Now let me ask you why can you teach YEC's evolution?
Because no matter what you say it is from the devil. And if the devil is alive and well then it must mean their version of God is too.
The way God does it now the foolish builders faith gets washed away, (they let go what they believe willingly) placing the with the opportunity to truly seek out God.
This is why I said why can't he reveal himself and also teach us about his *true* self? It's like me saying my friend exists, and you say 'oh, your friend John?' and then my friend speaks for himself and says 'my name is actually Bob'.
Simple.
Quote:Quote:It makes more sense for God to not exist, than for this benevolent being with a will to be in relationship with us to continually deny us the knowledge of his existence unless the planets align, and we are in this perfect state of mind while knowing precisely the nature of God such that our view of Him isn't flawed.
We're only human, after all.
How many times over the years have you made the charge God is not benevolent?
Yet now He is?
Just a fun thought for me.
I remember you stating that the 'true' Christian teaching is that God is merely benevolent and not quite in the ranks of omnibenevolence. Therefore I'm stating back the things that you believe in my argument, so as to be on the same page with you.
Quote:I don't get the issue you are having. It's not like we have no way of knowing God. It just that we are not born with full knowledge of His knowable glory. We have to humble ourselves to receive this gift. I do not understand why this is such a big issue. Living like this allows those who want to know God the opportunity to do so, and those who do not the opportunity to turn a blind eye, and still be able to sleep at night.
Yes, we have to humble ourselves, I get that. And that is where my argument began; some atheists do indeed humble themselves and so.. etc etc.
Read my post again perhaps.
P.s. Hi Drich!
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle