Why knocking is so important.

[Drich]

I'm really not sure what to say, I feel like either you have intentionally skipped the point I was making twice or we are on completely different wavelengths.

The points are these:
That the starting point of your 'knocking' idea is flawed just by the fact with people like myself their can be no sincere starting point. Although my parents were slightly religious it was not a thing I was ever brought up around so has never crossed my mind. Actually being a believer in your god is as alien to me as being a Scientologist probably is to you.

The starting point is what Christ referred to as "the faith of a mustard seed." All one needs is the smallest measure of said faith and He said He it will move mountains of doubt.

2nd Even if there was a starting point, it is clear that the idea is circular in that if it fails you try again until it works. Knowing the way in which humans work, trying to force an ideology in that way could work for anything regardless of wither it is correct or not. I challenge you to the same technique but for Allah, you can't tell me it doesn't work because in that case you just clearly haven't done it correctly.

thats just it your not trying anything in A/S/K. You are simply looking for the truth.

I've read the bible, I actually did religious studies as one of my choices in school and college. Both times I studied Judaism and Christianity. If I learned anything it is that the bible is vague enough that it can mean just about anything you need it too.

the Holy Spirit however is not so vague. This is what we receive when we ask seek and knock as outlined in luke 11.

Have you ever seen the book of Eli?

one of my favorite movies

Its funny I have no idea if that film was meant to be for or against religion. Perhaps both.

Against religion and the evil men who would use it for their own gain. And for God. As God preserved his word in Eli and gave sight to a blind man to complete his task.

Perfect example of what a corrupt 'supported' view of God can do.[/quote]

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Hey Drich... Think of how many souls aren't being won by you because you spend your time bashing your head against a wall on AF!

How about you stop casting your version of god's pearls at we swine here online? WWJD? He'd have left long ago, and advises you to do so as well.

6 “Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw your pearls before swine, or they will trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces."

You're wasting resources bro....

Your new huh?

Amongst the [s]minnies[s/] swine there are a few prodigals who feel the have no choice but to live and eat as the swine do. While I do and have shaken the dust from my feet and turn from them, I am still here for the prodigals who simply think they are swine.

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I honestly do not care who is ruling over Britain. I used the queen as a possiable example for a specific delima that I do not think anyone has addressed yet.

If its the one I read yesterday I can address it right now. The leader of most nations is constantly on camera and reported on by hundreds if not thousands of news outlets almost daily. Even if I doubted those I could probably go to some kind of event where I could see that person with my own eyes. They also have a clear and obvious effect on the world that is easily observed by all.

For god it is entirely from a handful of ancient books of which the origins are not particularly trustworthy at best and outright fabricated and fraudulent at worst. That and peoples testimony that they somehow feel that there is a god, even then they rarely agree on what that god is or wants.

Could the world leaders not be real? I guess. I have far more reason to believe they exist than for a deity.

Again not talking about the people who hold the office. I am speaking to the office itself.

As most would agree Jesus was real, what is in question is His claim to His office.

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Feelings have nothing to do with biblical Christianity.

When knocking what should one expect but a feeling? Or is it lightening bolts you have in mind?

Spiritual fruit, followed by spiritual gifts.
Gal 5:22 forward

1cor 12 the chapter.

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I honestly do not care who is ruling over Britain. I used the queen as a possiable example for a specific delima that I do not think anyone has addressed yet.

The identity of the subject is completely irrelevant. I understand entirely what you were attempting to do. What I did was point out the dilemma that you refuse to address.

The delima is irrelevant, as it does not address the aspect of the analogy I was intending to use.

No matter who the queen of England is, belief in the office or the acknowledgement the power the office holds is what was being discussed. That is why I never mentioned a specific queen or president.

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There is no God Drippy. I knocked on the nonexistent gods door and got a nonexistent answer. If there is a god then he needs to knock on my door now.

what if He doesn't like you well enough to knock? What if He rather see you rot in Hell? Then what?

Also for your information, there are as many versions of God as there are people that believe in a god. So when you say that someone is worshipping their Version of God then that applies to everyone including you.

So?