(August 12, 2014 at 12:05 pm)Drich Wrote:But it DOES lead to belief is other gods and other supernatural things. That's how little Muslims are made.(August 12, 2014 at 12:32 am)Jenny A Wrote: That's absurd. Either it works or it doesn't. To suggest that looking for gods other than yours is ignoble, presupposes the answer thus negating the need for the tool.the tool is universal in that it can be applied to anything. Where you seem to be confused is that it will not yield a result In The search for another God, because no other God seeks/claims to be found that way. At best this method with disprove another god.

(August 12, 2014 at 12:05 pm)Drich Wrote:I am married and have been for the last 20 years.Jenny Wrote:You missed the point. Men exist. There's no reason to believe god does.and you missed a greater point. All men are not candidates to be your husband. (Maybe for you but I know a few who would disagree) a husband is a title given to a specific man married to a specific woman. Not all women get married therefore (albeit a small possibility as I am sure you are very marriage worthy) it is probable that you may never get married.
That is why I asked if you could not find a husband by 30 would you give up or would you continue to ask seek and knock?
The point is that there are many men, many of them marriage worthy. What there isn't is any indication of god.
(August 12, 2014 at 12:05 pm)Drich Wrote:Quote: It would be very hard not to see the existence of men good or bad. God on the other hand is very much absent from view everywhere including the church.it depends on the church and the man you are looking at. If you want to see and hear God every day all you need do is A/S/K.
Sorry, but no. And as asking to see the supernatural often causes one to see the supernatural, it isn't a reliable method.
(August 12, 2014 at 12:05 pm)Drich Wrote:Just history. People who believe in god, have done those things, are are doing those things in god's name.Quote:Like god required morality that leads to burning people at the stake for heresy? Or stoning women for being raped? Frankly, no god required morality tends to be, well, more moral.Book, chapter, verse?
Or are you just quoting some church tradition.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.