Why knocking is so important.

[Drich]

But it DOES lead to belief is other gods and other supernatural things. That's how little Muslims are made.

Actually no. The God of the bible is the only God who seeks a relationship with His followers. Muslims do what they do for material reward in the after life.

and you missed a greater point. All men are not candidates to be your husband. (Maybe for you but I know a few who would disagree) a husband is a title given to a specific man married to a specific woman. Not all women get married therefore (albeit a small possibility as I am sure you are very marriage worthy) it is probable that you may never get married.

That is why I asked if you could not find a husband by 30 would you give up or would you continue to ask seek and knock?

I am married and have been for the last 20 years.

So?

The point is that there are many men, many of them marriage worthy. What there isn't is any indication of god.

Again it depends on where you look on both accounts.

Sorry, but no. And as asking to see the supernatural often causes one to see the supernatural, it isn't a reliable method.

what makes you think God can only reside in the supernatural?

I am suggesting that you put away ALL your preconceptions and just Seek The God of the Bible what ever the out come.

Book, chapter, verse?

Or are you just quoting some church tradition.

Just history. People who believe in god, have done those things, are are doing those things in god's name.

So if God does not order these things and yet men do them anyway (even in His name) how is that any different than men who do this for any other reason under the sun?

A wicked Heart will use what ever tool at hand to get what it wants.

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That's why he's called Minimalist.

Ohhh, that's why...

I always thought it had to with the oversized fallace based avatars he traditionally uses... (as if he were compensating for.. something else.)

That is why i changed my nick name for him from mini (small) to Minnie a name.

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I think it is hilarious that Min renamed him "Drippy". All know him as that now and it will not go away.

Meh.. It is what it is.

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Look Drich,

You are saying look for god as the Bible suggests and you will find him. You are ignoring the fact that the Koran says look as the Koran says and you will find him.

Uh no. unless you can provide me with book chapter and verse.

And the Book of Mormon says look as Joseph Smith says and you will find him.

Ahh, no again. It say be faithful and you will become a God over your own world as God is God over this one. (as he was just a man on another world himself at one time.)

And Rudolf Hess said look for Hitler in you heart and you will find him.

which was a play on a catholic doctrine trying to elevate hitler into a god like status. This we know this as this proclaimation was said about Christ hundreds of years before hitler.

Hear with an open mind and you will hear the spirits knocking. All of these results are incompatible yet people find them when they go looking for them. And people who go looking for meaning come out of one door or the other at random. It's therefore not reality. Reality works the same way no matter who's doing the measurements.

Actually all of these examples are counter intuitive to what A/S/K method embodies. When we A/S/K we scrutinize and seek the truth about God. That is why so often the very first step is the removal of your old faith/loss of faith and why so many of you consider yourselves atheist.

To reaffirm a false idea of God is to not be faithful to the A/S/K method, and if one is not faithful to this method then they can claim to use this tool for any end or justification.

If we rebooted tomorrow, science might have different names for things, but it would arrive in the same place. Religion wouldn't. How do I know? Because scientific fact is often discovered independently in several places. The scientists argue over who was first. Religion is different everywhere. And it changes without new data. They argue not over who was first, but who's inner truth is right.

You won't hear a nuclear physicist say it was revealed to me that E=MC2.

That's not true. Because unless that physicist was actually einstien it was revealed to him at some point energy equals mass times the speed of light in a vacuum squared.

The problem with your arguement is that you have preconceived ideas of what these words mean in a given context. For example your use of revelation.. Appreaently you thought it means God beamed info directly into someone head. While this can be a point of revelation, not all revelation works this way. A revelation is to reaveal something supprising that was previously unknown. So by the very defination of the word revelation Einstein's discovery was indeed a revelation..

Other examples include your understanding of the religions you mention. You believe they all point to the same end goal. They don't. Only in Christianity does the God of all creation seek a relationship with His followers. The rest are simply rewards based after life or even next life religions.[/quote]