RE: Why knocking is so important.
August 13, 2014 at 12:33 pm
(This post was last modified: August 13, 2014 at 12:43 pm by Jenny A.)
(August 13, 2014 at 10:36 am)Drich Wrote:(August 12, 2014 at 4:01 pm)Jenny A Wrote: But it DOES lead to belief is other gods and other supernatural things. That's how little Muslims are made.Actually no. The God of the bible is the only God who seeks a relationship with His followers. Muslims do what they do for material reward in the after life.
Seeking a personal relationship with god, has nothing to do with it. The point is that using one's inner self to test the truth of a proposition, or to find a truth is a method that creates believers in all sorts of thing, religious and otherwise supernatural. As those things often contradict each other, it's obvious the method is unreliable.
(August 12, 2014 at 12:05 pm)Drich Wrote: I am suggesting that you put away ALL your preconceptions and just Seek The God of the Bible what ever the out come.
And I just explained above, that while that might actually work in the sense that it produces belief in god in some people, it is a stupid way of going about discovering the truth about anything but your own insides.
(August 12, 2014 at 12:05 pm)Drich Wrote: Other examples include your understanding of the religions you mention. You believe they all point to the same end goal. They don't. Only in Christianity does the God of all creation seek a relationship with His followers. The rest are simply rewards based after life or even next life religions.
The point is not what you seek when you read and then look within for truth; it's that if you do, you will find what your are seeking. You presupposed the Biblical god and found him. Others presuppose other things and find those things. For a Mormon example see here: http://atheistforums.org/thread-27960.html
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.