(August 13, 2014 at 12:19 pm)FlowingFlame Wrote: Pretty heavy SPAGing here. Who are you to say that God isn't simply leading him down a more winding path on the way to enlightenment? Do you know more than God?Again I am not looking at titles nor religious terminology. I am looking at what the believer believes. Enlightment salvation who says they are not the same if one were to only look at the words we elect to use. It is the definations and how the words are used in conjunction to what is believed that determines whether a man stands of falls before God.
Quote:Knowing God is not about behaivor. Biblicaly Christianity centers relationship, not the way we act.
Quote:https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...ersion=ESVIt is possiable to have one without the other.. 18 But someone will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder! 20 Do you want to be shown, you foolish person, that faith apart from works is useless?
Seems to me it's better to have both. Is your flavor of Christianity special in this? Can you be a shitty human being your whole life and still get into heaven if you regularly chat with God? Wouldn't heaven be filled with a bunch of insincere assholes if this worked?
That is why I said the focous is not on works, rather Belief that fosters works.
Quote:I tried doing this over and over when I was a little girl yet all I got were more urges to know what it felt like to touch the other girls slender wrists or run my fingertips along the curves of their necks. Is... is God a lesbian? I followed the evidence I found in prayer and can determine that yes, yes It is.Well, good luck with that line of reasoning.[/quote]