Disproving The Soul

[Baqal]

Baqal. Firstly, the OP seems to adopt an Aristotelean model of soul, that a soul is something we have. I would say the biblical meaning is much more that we 'are' souls; that 'soul' describes the essence of our identity. So let's work with your example. You say that "abstract ideas are measurable in our reality, so they exist". What would I measure to validate that idea itself? What are the units of that idea that I need to measure?

Or take the classical philosophical position of cogito ergo sum, I think therefore I am. This is generally taken as a 'basic belief' that cannot actually be substantiated without circular reasoning (you need to validate it without relying on an 'I' or an 'am' to avoid begging the question). How does your idea that all ideas can be measured relate to that?

I'd encourage you to open a little more to the world of 'ideas'. Hard materialism collapses in on itself it cannot allow for ideas that cannot be measured themselves. Think, for example, of the laws of logic; measurement depends on applying some basic concepts in logic for measurement to make sense. But of you says the laws of logic must be substantiated by measurement, you then pull the rug out from the very idea of measurement. You simply beg the question again. Science itself rests on axioms that we cannot prove or measure.

I am quite aware of that, in order to commit inquiry, I have to take three basic assumptions.
A lot of people use abstract ideas and they are able to recognize them. Because of that, I can be maximally certain that there are abstract ideas in this world. We can't ever "substantiate" the abstract, because we have to resort to abstract thinking again.
So, yes. I think I see your point now, Michael. I only wonder what makes you certain that our souls somehow equate to how we express ourselves in this world to be?