(August 15, 2014 at 7:16 pm)ShaMan Wrote: It's not my job to correct your fallacies. If I say you stole a soda, it's not your job to prove you didn't, it's my job to prove you did. Goodbye troll... IGNORE
Thank God, at least now she’ll stop whining about how I am such a big meanie face for thinking she believed what atheists believe.
(August 15, 2014 at 11:23 pm)Ryantology (╯°◊°)╯︵ ══╬ Wrote: As far as you describe it, the "transcendent value" of a human is to have the same right to existence as a computer or a mountain or a planet.
No, God has commanded that we do not kill other humans; He never commanded that we should not destroy computers and mountains.
Can you answer my question? Why would a human have a right to exist in a purely material Universe? You keep asserting that they do but I see no reason for it.
Quote:This is just an example of your god treating his objects the way he feels like. You can only be upset by it if you think he's being cruel or neglectful.
No that’d only be the case if I were upset at God for it, which I am not. It upsets me because we brought such things upon ourselves and then we get mad at God for it rather than being thankful that we do not get the full extent of what we deserve.
Quote: Not only is it blatantly untrue that only Christians are doing something about it, it's arguable that Christians are doing very much that's useful about it, and regardless, Africa is a hellhole in large part because of what Christians did to it for 400 years.
Yeah nobody actually believes this for a second. The article I referenced was written by an atheist who has spent the majority of his life in Africa and he thinks people like you are delusional. Africa needs Christianity.
“Now a confirmed atheist, I've become convinced of the enormous contribution that Christian evangelism makes in Africa: sharply distinct from the work of secular NGOs, government projects and international aid efforts. “ [Emphasis added by SW]
“Christianity, post-Reformation and post-Luther, with its teaching of a direct, personal, two-way link between the individual and God, unmediated by the collective, and unsubordinate to any other human being, smashes straight through the philosphical/spiritual framework I've just described. It offers something to hold on to to those anxious to cast off a crushing tribal groupthink. That is why and how it liberates.
Those who want Africa to walk tall amid 21st-century global competition must not kid themselves that providing the material means or even the knowhow that accompanies what we call development will make the change. A whole belief system must first be supplanted.
And I'm afraid it has to be supplanted by another. Removing Christian evangelism from the African equation may leave the continent at the mercy of a malign fusion of Nike, the witch doctor, the mobile phone and the machete.”