RE: 'Jesus Never Existed'- The book
June 2, 2010 at 8:11 pm
(This post was last modified: June 2, 2010 at 8:20 pm by Happy UnBeliever.)
(June 1, 2010 at 11:52 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Direct Roman rule over the various regions of Palestine was intermittent.
For whatever reason they kept trying to find a member of Herod's family to rule in their place.
Aside from Varus' crushing the revolts which broke out on the death of Herod the Great in 4 BC and the Great Revolt itself there were few serious armed outbreaks and most of them happened in the period after the death of Herod Agrippa I in 44 AD.
Crucifixion was a punishment reserved for rebels and slaves. The Romans disposed of common criminals in far more cost-efficient ways.
One must guard against accepting the fiction of xtians and jews.
One of the first doubts I ever had about the veracity of the whole story was when I realized that if there was ever a time in their history when the Jews did not need a "deliverer" it was during the reigns of Augustus and Tiberius. The fact is they had it pretty good. If they could lie about that....they could lie about everything else.
P.S. - That chestnut is wrong.
http://truthbeknown.com/christ.htm
The Christ Conspiracy is a good book. I have it but have not read it all yet. As far as Jesus never existing well he most likely did not. Like was said he was created and built upon other mythological characters. For instance authorties rely upon the Four Gospels to prove Christ.The Encloypedia Biblica , one of the greatest Biblical works in the English langauge states " We cannot perhaps venture to assert positively that there was a city of Nazerath in Jesus time."
Every leading Christian Scholar since Erasmus 400 years ago has maintianed that they were written in Greek. Which proves they were not written by Jesus disciples or by any other of the early Christians. What do we have? Good question. The Apostles wrote what they imagined not what they saw.
The Encloypedia Biblica states that the order of events in the life of Christ as given to us by the Evangelists are contradictory and untrustworthy and that the chronological framework of the Gospels is worthless.
The early Christians destroyed almost all records it was necessary to hide the lie. You might find this link interesting as well:
http://www.positiveatheism.org/hist/rmsbrg00.htm
Its not so much the existence as it is the historical evidence which don't exist none of the historians alive at the time of Jesus even mention him. With the exception of Joesephus and that passage is a forgery created by Euseibus who even himself said it was OK to lie to advance the faith.