RE: Why knocking is so important.
August 19, 2014 at 2:53 pm
(This post was last modified: August 19, 2014 at 2:58 pm by Goosebump.)
Well Dirch I think I have managed to come to a conclusion. Please bare in mind I'm not a great intelligence. I have not made any great discoveries, published any works or invented anything profound. I'm a poor speller as I often lack attention to detail. My understanding of things may be simple to you but I do try to understand.
You said you preformed this 'knocking' business and it resulted in spiritual gifts.
Part of this gift or perhaps because of it or simply the success of the 'knocking' was that:
This is part of the proof, to yourself, that the 'knocking' worked and god is with you and believable.
Ok I get that.
You also said that this is a quest or mission. Of instruction? I think we can infer it is an instruction in your belief system which you believe sincerely because of the success of the 'knocking' and the result of that success.
What I can't reconcile is that somebody with a self professed “greater capacity for love” on a quest or mission of instruction could behave as you do when performing that instruction.
I, in my very limited experience, have not encountered a teacher who belittled or made sport of their students as an instrument of their instruction. I don't believe this is taught to new teachers, quite the opposite in fact.
So I don't see how that would follow from your previous conviction. I would expect that somebody with your capacities would always strive to be calm, measured and kind if not always successful.
So I guess my argument is an ad hominem. In that your actions do not bare out your convictions. So I reject your convictions because they don't seem to carry enough weight with yourself to strive to act on them.
That is just the way it's come across to me. My apologize if I've missed some greater point but I had trouble getting past this conundrum of what you've become with the holy spirit and how you act when sharing that experience. Like I said I'm no great thinker.
You said you preformed this 'knocking' business and it resulted in spiritual gifts.
Part of this gift or perhaps because of it or simply the success of the 'knocking' was that:
(August 13, 2014 at 2:05 am)Drich Wrote: What I feel as a believer that I did not before is a greater capacity for love, contentment, peace and joy.
This is part of the proof, to yourself, that the 'knocking' worked and god is with you and believable.
Ok I get that.
You also said that this is a quest or mission. Of instruction? I think we can infer it is an instruction in your belief system which you believe sincerely because of the success of the 'knocking' and the result of that success.
What I can't reconcile is that somebody with a self professed “greater capacity for love” on a quest or mission of instruction could behave as you do when performing that instruction.
I, in my very limited experience, have not encountered a teacher who belittled or made sport of their students as an instrument of their instruction. I don't believe this is taught to new teachers, quite the opposite in fact.
So I don't see how that would follow from your previous conviction. I would expect that somebody with your capacities would always strive to be calm, measured and kind if not always successful.
So I guess my argument is an ad hominem. In that your actions do not bare out your convictions. So I reject your convictions because they don't seem to carry enough weight with yourself to strive to act on them.
That is just the way it's come across to me. My apologize if I've missed some greater point but I had trouble getting past this conundrum of what you've become with the holy spirit and how you act when sharing that experience. Like I said I'm no great thinker.
