RE: Why knocking is so important.
August 19, 2014 at 7:06 pm
(This post was last modified: August 19, 2014 at 7:14 pm by Drich.)
(August 19, 2014 at 3:21 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: But..I thought the Holy Spirit is God. How can he be proof for himself if he is the claim in the first place?
What if i believed col. Sanders was not real? I know there is a ton of documentation that the col. was real. But what better proof of the col. Than the col. himself?
What better proof of God than God Himself?
(August 19, 2014 at 3:35 pm)Rhythm Wrote:(August 19, 2014 at 3:20 pm)Drich Wrote: When we ask seek and knock we receive the proof of God in the Holy Spirit as per Luke 11.Except when we don't receive that "proof", or when we receive a similar "proof" from other gods (even, amusingly, other "christian" gods).
I think that the lot of you are talking to yourselves, personally - but that's not really my problem. You have a problem with your claim. It never rises beyond the status of an assertion, and you are -unwilling to- or -incapable of- being consistent with the form of the claim as soon as someone tells you they tried it, and it didn't work, or that they knocked on the door and Krishna answered. You simply reassert. It wasn't compelling or well thought out the first go round, no amount of repetition is going to change that.
If you're a man on a mission, you need to be relieved of duty.
Again, we point back to the parable of the wise and foolish builders. If your view or understanding was corrupt then God will not support it. Which again is why it is so important we continue to knock.
If we have a corrupt view, then when the storms of life come, we will abandon this view. If we continue to knock we will begin to build an accurate view of God resulting in a relationship with the holy Spirit.
The problem is that your looking for God to fit your understanding your logic.. What if God is just a little bit bigger than your system of logic will allow? Will you be able to find Him using it?
(August 19, 2014 at 6:26 pm)oukoida Wrote:Keep reading...Quote: To know God is not apart of your imagination is much like the experience of knowing that anyother person of you life is not imaginary. Their is direct and constant input that often times opposes your own ideas and values.
The existence of other people can be confirmed objectively by hard evidence. What you have here is anything but hard (insert sexual joke here).
What I mean by this, is you have undeniable sensory evidence of the other person; that kind of evidence that can be verified by a third party: you know, *real* evidence. ASKing and its results are all in your mind.
Trippy Drippy Wrote:do you have an example? What is offered in luke 11 is spelled in plain english.
Luke 11 Wrote:9 And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you.
10 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
So it's not vague eh?