Quote:Libertarians are nothing more than republicans on steroids. You think the private sector will do everything right on it's own without government intervention. BULL FUCKING SHIT!
Haha, not even close. I suggest you take a look at the image on this page.
The front-running candidates of the two primary parties (Barack Obama, Mitt Romney) are A. Suprisingly close together and B. Smack dab in the middle of the authoritarian side of the scale, 6 and 6.5 out of -10 --> 10. And if those are who the Republicans and Democrats threw into the ring, then it's pretty fair to say that while the Libertarian party may be clustered on the right side of the wing, you really can't say that they're "Republicans on steroids" when Republicans voted for someone so flipping Authoritarian!
Not on its own. The Market is never on its own, it is driven and regulated by the people. The people are the government in the Free-Market Society, and if there is a formal "Government Body", then it is truly subject to the people, and there would be many more safeguards against corruption in place than there are now.
Quote:You think after 30 years of deregulation, constant tax cuts for the rich, jobs being shipped over seas, pay not keeping up with the cost of living for more and more people, you'd have me believe that even more deregulation and less government will fix what the rich set up for themselves?
From Wikipedia, Taxation in the United States: "Federal taxes were expanded greatly during World War I. In 1921, wealthy industrialist and then Treasury Secretary Andrew Mellon engineered a series of significant income tax cuts under three presidents. Mellon argued that tax cuts would spur growth.[105] The last such cut in 1928 was followed by the Great Depression in 1929. Taxes were raised again in the latter part of the Depression, and during World War II. Income tax rates were reduced significantly during the Johnson, Nixon, and Reagan Presidencies. Significant tax cuts for corporations and upper income individuals were enacted during the second Bush Presidency."
You haven't shown that tax cuts are CAUSAL of economic slumping, at best, you've show a correlation. Of course, you'll also notice that I never said anything about tax cuts for the WEALTHY specifically. When I want taxes lowered, I want them lowered for everyone. I want taxes removed from basic necessities (sales tax). Feel free to tax the shit out of that guy's yacht, or encourage fools to dump their money into the lottery.
On the subject of deregulation, please read this.
This group/economist claims that deregulation has HELPED STABILIZE our economy.
And this one claims that welfare reform is our option out of the poverty problem. Laws, set up by fallible politicians, not "rich corporations". Hey, now you know what to change.
So, YEAH, I do think more deregulation, governmental reform, and lowered taxes are going to bolster and heal our economy. You can deal with the social responsibilities of corporations through activism, boycott, and protest.
Quote:Oh and NO companies DO NOT compete for my business, they compete against each other. It is a dick measuring contest for profits for CEOs and share holders. Our current market has NOTHING to do with improving the lives of society. It is about exploitation without regards of the living conditions of those who work for them. Our economy has become a giant ponzy scheme and casino where the private sector privatizes the profits and socializes the losses.
Uh huh. And HOW do businesses obtain profit? They don't just turn on some mechanized dildo and aim it at our collective asses, do they? In "competing with each other", they have to take in revenue. Revenue comes in selling higher quantities of more-desired goods than the other guy. That means they want to sell you something. So, they want to meet your needs with their products. "Privatizes the profits"? "Socializes the losses"? I'm going to need you to expand on this soundbite, otherwise I am at risk of strawmanning YOU based on several assumptions.
Quote:You are a classest you may not think you are, but you are.Prove it. All you've got here is a singular statement, with no reasoning backing it up.
Quote:BECAUSE FUCKWADS LIKE YOU INSIST EVERYTHING IS FINE.
That's a new low, ad-homing a strawman. I never said "Everything is fine with the world", in fact, the standard Libertarian view is that everything is NOT fine with the world.
Quote:Now for the last FUCKING TIME, IF IF IF IF IF IF IF IF you want that less government, then the private sector has to PAY A LIVABLE WAGE and self police. BUT if you think that is what they are doing currently and not simply exploiting us, you are a fucking idiot.
Did I EVER say that they CURRENTLY WERE? However, you fail to realize that people CAN earn a living wage in the proper job. Saying that because the burger flipper at Micky Dee's is a bare minimum wage job does not make your generalization true, rather that is the exception to the rule. Anybody with a college degree in Engineering or Science can get a thoroughly-well-paid job. As far as I know, those are the FASTEST growing jobs in the world. No country can currently pump out enough engineers to keep up with the demand. And hell, I trust that so much that I'm staking my future on an Engineering degree.
Quote:If Corporate America were spending it's own welfare(tax cuts they do not need) on better worker pay and investing in jobs here, then the rest of us would not have to turn to government. BUT it is our government, not just yours. You do not get to decide what is best for the rest of us.
I'm not sure where you got this idea that I am attempting to dictate laws or control government. In a Free-Market Society, the People as a whole form the Government. There's no ruling body that has to try to judge everyone's opinions and make the best choice in a way to regulate some sort of business, because the business owner will bend to popular opinion to decide his practices. If he doesn't, then he will be very quickly out of business.
