(August 24, 2014 at 3:50 pm)Surgenator Wrote: Can you just state your view? This socratic method is getting annoying.
If I don't know your position, how am I going to respond to it? I think I know your position, and I am in the process of confirming-- while you, apparently, are in the process of tap-dancing.
You said that rasetsu's "image from the eyes" was about a real thing. However, she specified (I think she's a she) that in all four of her possible sources, the image as the brain experienced it was exactly identical. This means that there is nothing intrinsic to anything in the brain, at least at the level of experience, that represents reality. Instead, the reality is a property of the object being observed.
You want me to drop the socratic method? Instead of just making the positive assertion "X is real and Y is not" why don't you explain what that means, and how a person can use his/her conscious awareness to confidently make that determination?