Why knocking is so important.

[Drich]

Drich, you are so full of shit. As hard as you spin I'm surprised you can still type.

What you call spinning, I have labeled as an opening post. This is my message from the beginning. It's been 44 pages and you finally get it, but rather than admit you just now got what I have been talking about from post number one of this thread. you make it out like I am the one who is back peddling, and trying to save face with why your faith failed explaination. If this explaination was indeed in my initial post, and you are just flat wrong... and can not admit it even when there is undeniable evidence. You should be asking yourself what else are you wrong about and can not admit it to yourself?

And you wonder why/how your house built on sand has crumbled.

You had a bad picture of God. One that was not redeemable in any way shape or form, so when tested your picture of God crumbled just as Christ said it would... Why does any of that supersize you? Are you so proud as to think that you were simply born into the right religion? That Sunday school really taught you everything there was to know about an infinite God? Really one hour aday, maybe two or three times a month?

What in your life have you done to that level of dedication and been successful at? Not just good but answers to life's greatest questions good at? And you wonder why God will not support what you come to Him with? Would you give a kid a full ride scholarship to where ever he wanted to go if he maxed out with a 3rd grade education? Or would you make him come up to a given level first?

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Alright sport lets start over fresh. What do you want to know?

Alright, game on!

Here's an excerpt from what I wrote earlier (click on the little green arrow next to my username on the quote below to go to the full post):

Tell me, can you honestly say you've considered the possibility that a lot of the extraordinary phenomena you think happened to you may have been a product of your own mind, your own wishful thinking, your own imagination, your own hallucination, your own projection?

Again, with the medical problem doctors were involved. The initial and subsequent diagnosis was made by a real doctors/series of doctors and support staff. 3rd party verified through the doctors office, my friends and family who help me through it..

With, messenger no other "in your own mind" symptoms ever were present before, durning the experience, or have been since present. Because I was driving this would be considered a high functioning hallucination, these don't happen in a vacuum. There are symptoms that lead upto and preceed these types of events.
(Google it)

The hell experience again happened years before I had a complete biblical understanding of the place. I thought it to be caves of red fiery rock pits of lava and demons tormenting people in various devices. Found out it was completely different, and over time verified it through scripture.

Experienced happened before knoweledge of the experience verified it...

So to directly answer your question. Yes I have considered whether or not all of these things just happened in my head. I have since come to the conclusion no they have not, as per the reasons listed above..

Game on indeed
http://youtu.be/OTL2n65JAGo

I have a dozen or so more experiences some I am willing to share while other you need to be here with me to see for yourself. Again all of it verifiable.

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So is it then acceptable to have a general invitation in the bible?

What about an invitation extended through another person?

Because in english these are all acceptiable forms of one person or group inviting another.

So, your answer to my assertion that God hasn't offered anything is to agree with me and claim that others have made offers on God's behalf?

If the President tells one of his people to have you over to a state dinner, are you not invited over to the White House for a state dinner by the president?

(Their is a train coming down this track Cato, you'd better be ready if you insist on backing this position.)