On naturalism and consciousness

[Surgenator]

Using only experience, you've adopted a philosphical model in which we do not explain things in experiential terms, but rather in terms of an inferred objective reality. But here's a hint: Occam's Razor was not meant as an additive tool; you can disagree with me, but you cannot sensibly disagree by arguing that the web of assumptions and inferences that we call physical monism is the simplest possible expression of the truth.

Your definition of "experience" is too broad that it encoposses everything I could possible use. So your first sentence should go like this, "Using everyting I have access to, i've adopted a philosphical model in which we do not explain things in experiential terms, but rather in terms of an inferred objective reality." I do this, because there is way to distinguish the two according to your definition of "experience" and I occam razor the other possibilities.

Again, it is like asking to explain the science of gravity, but complaining that I'm using science to do it.

The simplest model of experience is (and should obviously be) that reality is intrinsically experiential, i.e. that an idealistic monism is true.

Idealistic monism doesn't explain the existing "experiences" we have. Like peoples experiences can be changed by drugs whether they like it or not. Hense, it isn't even an option for occam's razor.

I really hate it when people misuse occam's razor. It is NOT just the simplest view. It is the simplest that explains ALL of the observable "experiences."