(August 26, 2014 at 10:30 am)Losty Wrote: I'm talking about real verification Drich. Voices in your head and feelings do not count.I believe that Drich's point is that they count for him. His claim is that if we each ASK in the proper manner and with the proper amount of persistence, we will also get our own verification, which would in turn serve as verification that he was right. If we don't get the correct verification, then the process is not complete and we must persist until we do.
I don't think there's anything more to it. For me, the last part reminds me of the way that "prayer always works" because the believer interprets the outcome to support prayer no matter what happens. I cannot verify Drich's experiences: in fact I strongly suspect that they would not stand up to scrutiny. He cannot verify mine, and he may equally strongly suspect that my attempts were self-serving or simply insufficient. We are stalemated.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
-Stephen Jay Gould
