RE: On naturalism and consciousness
August 26, 2014 at 10:06 pm
(This post was last modified: August 26, 2014 at 10:09 pm by bennyboy.)
(August 26, 2014 at 7:57 pm)Surgenator Wrote:Why do you keep ignoring my answers and then re-asking your questions? Also, why do you keep ignoring the implications of the things you yourself choose to quote?Quote:Monistic idealism holds that consciousness, not matter, is the ground of all being. It is monist because it holds that there is only one type of thing in the universe and idealist because it holds that one thing to be consciousness.The human brain is a mechanical element, i.e. a collection of neurons. It is not a consciousness. So again, where do you store your experiences?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idealism
In an idealistic monism, all that exists is reducible only to ideas. That includes everything we experience, including the human brain.
So my answer is still: the brain, so far as I know.
Quote:First the mind and now it's consciousness, congratulations on moving the goal postYour obvious aggravation and subsequent rude tone aside, what point are you trying to make here?. Let me explain now a origins of consciousness that have plague the philosophers minds for centuries in this post. You got to fucking kidding me!
Quote:And by what mechanisms do neurons create the mind? What exactly is it about a particular physical system that allows actual experience to exist, rather than just a biological computer processing input and producing a behavioral output?Quote:That's a narrative, not a mechanical explanation.Bullshit. Each of these processes has been demonstated to exist via science. Abiogenesis takes non living matter and changes it to living matter. Evolution takes the living matter and gets to neurons. Finally, a collection of neurons create a mind.
That's like saying "The Father, the Son, the Holy Ghost, ta da." You've just put a bunch of words from your world view together. It neither confirms the validity of your model, nor explains how in your model, mind exists.
You still have only a narrative and a bunch of scientific words thrown together. What you don't have is an explanation.
Quote:You still didn't answer why different subsets would have similiar experiences unless the subsets are similiar. In your monism world view, what guarantee's similiar subsets?First of all, by subsets, you are talking about people. People are similar because they are composed similarly, and have access to some of the same experiences.