Should man rule over women for women’s own good?

[Greatest I am]

I am a Gnostic Christian and we recognize the spark of God within all of us. Full equality is something we have to embrace from the get go.

Gnostic Christian men have just decided that man is stronger and better, by will and body, and should thus be the main protector of family values and think that our duty is first to maintain life for our children and secondly to place our wives in that same safe environment.

IOW, the strong should serve the weak.

If you think the reverse should be in play, then you are not much of a moral or duty driven person.

Get thee behind me Satan.

Regards
DL

I don't even know what to say to this because I'm trying to leave my emotions out if your thread. I used to be like you, believe like you. But I realized that all too often the strong exploit the weak instead of serving them.
I don't believe the opposite either. I don't believe people should serve other people unless they want to. I believe people should be free to choose their own roles.

Be kind and caring and considerate. Help those you can help and accept help when you need it. These things have nothing to do with gender.

I would be offended that you called me satan but I prefer that instead of you seeing a spark of your god in me which is offensive and leaves me wishing to be physically ill.
Get behind you, not a chance. I will not stand behind you, or in front of you. I will not stand over you, nor will I kneel before you. I'd say here I will stand next you, but you give me the creeps so I'd rather just stay as far away as possible.

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You forgot my main point. Rule over women for women's sake.

Some others here have forgotten that bit and call me sexist as in pro man when, if that word applies at all, I should be called sexist for being pro women.

Regards
DL

Yes, you seem to be sexist against both men(who do not fit your idea of a "real man") and women.

For women's own sake? The thing you are not getting is it's not for women's sake at all. Women do not need to be ruled over by men.

Exactly the message I hope all take from the O.P.

He shall rule over you --- has been used by the majority in the West, who happen to be Christians, to bludgeon women into second class citizens and unequal to men forever.

I agree that women do not need men who have institutionalized discrimination against women to rule over them.

Both moral men and women will agree.

This O.P. is an older one that I did some time ago.

Here is a new one if any would like to have a look.

https://atheistforums.org/thread-28294.html

Regards
DL

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Gnostic Christian men have just decided that man is stronger and better, by will and body,

That must be very convenient for all the Gnostic Christian men who, I'm sure, were the only ones involved in that determination.

But until that assertion can be demonstrated, I certainly don't place any authority in it, nor should anyone else.

I will let your answer demonstrate the veracity of the statement if you make it.

Do you see women being stronger physically than men?

Sure some women will put some men to shame but we are talking the greater majority here.

Regards
DL

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Where did the Captain get the gun and the rules to follow if not by consensus from those in authority?

So in steps this new class of people (presumably men), those in authority. Your just making shit up now.

You forgot my main point. Rule over women for women's sake.

Let me guess, men decide what is good for women's sake. How convenient. Men get to rule over women for reasons that men define.

I'm going to make this easy. Give women all the guns. If you can then justify a system where the women with guns voluntarily allow men to rule over them, you have a case. If you can't, then your intent is only to subjugate women; no matter how benign your intentions are.

If you read that as my intent then you cannot read.

Regards
DL

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Men have no right to control women. Sexism is born out of ignorance of our evolution and men mistake brawn as entitlement. Religion took off with that meme because of their own ignorance of evolution. Evolution in reality needs both men and women. Religion bastardizes reality and harms human dignity.

No argument.

Regards
DL