Why knocking is so important.

[Simon Moon]

You said 1.5 billions muslims can also claim they got what their god promised. I said you do not understand that religion, because you are assuming that muslims are also promised what I have reported Christians have been promised. This is not true. Muslims and Christians are not working for the same goals and or promises.

I never said Muslims and Christians are promised the same thing by their gods, only that they both claim to have proof that their gods live up to their promises.

Muslims point to the Koran itself as a promise from their god, and that it (in the original Arabic) is a miracle.

Aside from the promises of assureances that muslim believer need not worship any other God because allah will love them if they are faithful.. Allah makes no promises to be activly carried out and verifiable in this life. It's all geared for the next one..
There are only 25 muslim identified promises of allah (I only count about a dozen the rest are religious fluff) and nothing execept the assurance of harship can be verified in a believer's life. even then that is a two part promise and the second part can not be verified till after Death.

Here is a Sura that does promise results in this world:

Sura al-Nal 16:97

Whoever does righteousness, whether male or female, while he is a believer - We will surely cause him to live a good life, and We will surely give them their reward [in the Hereafter] according to the best of what they used to do.

Christians on the other hand Are offered to have God Himself be incorperated into their being.

And in Islam, Allah offers Muslims ma’rifah.

The descriptions of ma’rifah sure sound an awful lot like Allah is incorporated into their being.

"It is because of this that the mystics and scholars of spirituality state that the notion of ‘seeking God’ is one which is founded upon a misunderstanding. We do not need to search for God, because God is already present with us, in fact closer to us than our jugular vein and even our own hearts:

And We are nearer to him than his jugular vein (50:16)

“Neither [the vastness of] My earth, nor [that of] My heaven can contain Me. Indeed it is the heart of the man of faith which can contain Me.”