Why knocking is so important.

[Drich]

"How do you know this to be true? Because the internet told you? because you read it in a book? Even if what you read was correct, you should then ask are their any other variables that can change this formula? "

Because I took an object and dropped it through a set of laser gates which measured the time it took to fall and the velocity of the object at different points. I then used the data to calculate the rate of acceleration. The answer I got was within tolerances I would expect of the accepted answer, providing for errors in significant figures and small errors in the equipment. Because of this I find the answer of 9.807m/s•s to be credible.

"What if i told you the gravitional rate on earth increases when the drag coefficient decreases? so to say "The gravitational acceleration rate on Earth is 9.8 m/s²" is at best an estimation. because the higher up you go the higher the gravitional rate will increase up to an objects terminal velocity. as the atmosphere thickens more drag is applied and the terminal velocity will decrease and the acceleration rate will also decrease the closer one gets to sea level..."

Hahaha!!!

No.

The rate of acceleration due to gravity decreases the further you get from sea level. I have a very nice potential energy curve in my physics book that shows this. The air resistance is a completely different factor, a differential that decreases with an increase in altitude. The reason you might assume as you do is because the rate at which the air resistance differential approaches zero is greater than the decrease in the change in acceleration due to gravity.

Physics nitpicker, away!!!

I love it when you guys go way out on a limb and do not speak to the specific points I plot and plan into my posts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_of_Earth

Gravity decreases with altitude as one rises above the earth's surface because greater altitude means greater distance from the Earth's center. All other things being equal, an increase in altitude from sea level to 9,000 metres (30,000 ft) causes a weight decrease of about 0.29%. (An additional factor affecting apparent weight is the decrease in air density at altitude, which lessens an object's buoyancy.[8] This would increase a person's apparent weight at an altitude of 9,000 metres by about 0.08%)

It is a common misconception that astronauts in orbit are weightless because they have flown high enough to "escape" the Earth's gravity. In fact, at an altitude of 400 kilometres (250 mi), equivalent to a typical orbit of the Space Shuttle, gravity is still nearly 90% as strong as at the Earth's surface. Weightlessness actually occurs because orbiting objects are in free-fall.[9]

The effect of ground elevation depends on the density of the ground (see Slab correction section). A person flying at 30 000 ft above sea level over mountains will feel more gravity than someone at the same elevation but over the sea. However, a person standing on the earth's surface feels less gravity when the elevation is higher.

The following formula approximates the Earth's gravity variation with altitude:

g_h=g_0\left(\frac{r_e}{r_e+h}\right)^2
Where

gh is the gravitational acceleration at height h\, above sea level.
re is the Earth's mean radius.
g0 is the standard gravitational acceleration.
This formula treats the Earth as a perfect sphere with a radially symmetric distribution of mass; a more accurate mathematical treatment is discussed below.

The point you seemed to miss?
That the gh is a variable that was not accounted for in the inital post that said that said the average gravitational acceleration rate on Earth is 9.8 m/s².
Clearly it was not. and my point stands, that it takes a measure of faith to believe that what one understands as truth/fact is complete.

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Almost fifty pages in, I still don't know why knocking is so important. You'd think a deity would make his proxies a little more concise.

It is spelled out in the OP.

The short version:

When one asks and seeks often time the answer to that prayer results in what most of you lable as atheism. Why? Because the picture of God many of us start out with is so corrupt God has to let that picture of Him die out in your mind completely first. Other wise if he were to support you, you would just hold that corrupt version of god closer to your heart.

Christ demonstrates this in the parable of the wise and foolish builders. (Again which is explained in greater deatail in the OP)

To continue to seek the truth in Atheism will have you leave your corrupt version of God, and eventually have you build a correct picture of Him. One that He can get behind and support.

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What if I called you carox?

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the average where, is the point.

He said "the average gravitational acceleration rate on Earth."

You responded to him that 'other variables can change the formula' (I assume that you mean that other variables can change the result). My point is that the word "average" takes this into account; by definition, it recognizes that the results fall into a range that is dependent on one or more variables.

but again that average is only valid at sea level. therefore not a true average. there is a 0.9% variance in that average therefore the true average 9.8 m/s². Plus 0.45%

Because again 9.8 m/s² is the low end of the scale and 0.9% + 9.8 m/s² is the high end. to split the difference @ 0.45% is the true average...

uh-oh.. It looks like you all had faith in the INTERPERTATION of facts you knew to be right, was misplaced!



Tell me again stimbo about how thick the irony is..

... and where did you get those facts? Books, the internet? where they wrong?? Or again was your faith in your interpertation wrong???

Looks like you all planted your mustard seed's worth of faith in the wrong field.

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the average where, is the point. This 'average' is only a good average at or near sea level, in a warm enviroment.

the average rate of gravitiational acceleration in denver will always be higher than the average in NYC

I've been staring at this; flummoxed by what I would previously have considered an impossible concentration of ignorance and stupidity. I have tried to understand by assuming Drich's brain to be an inverse black hole relative to fact acquisition, but wan't satisfied. Next, the scene from Spaceballs where Dark Helmet's ship reached ludicrous spead resulting in Barf's observation "They've gone to plaid" popped in my head.

maybe wait till the fat lady has sung before doing your victory dance..

Otherwise you may be made to look foolish when caught dancing with no music playing.