(August 31, 2014 at 11:07 am)Drich Wrote: We are not talking about God here sport, we are talking about gravity. To which I have provided at least 3 different verifiable links to proof to support my assertions, that point out to the misplaced faith you all have placed in your 'anti gravity' buddies have in their understanding of it.You seem to have missed the point of the original message regarding that. In fact, you helped prove it by pointing to additional information which can be used to verify whether that faith is misplaced. By anyone, and to everyone. You have been arguing that A/S/K works on an individual level and cannot be verified in the way that gravity can, and you have shown exactly how the two are completely different: you can point at facts and knowledge about gravity and say "this is how it really works, and it can be verified these particular ways and will yield these specific results." Then you point at conjecture and anecdotes about A/S/K and say "you'll get the same results as me, and by the same results I mean they might be the same and they might be completely different."
Do you actually believe that those two types of "faith" are the same?
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
-Stephen Jay Gould