refuting misconceptions:1-women in Islam

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Is it better to rape (which causes harm) or to masturbate (which causes no harm)? For a healthy man to think that rape is ok, he must be taught to not empathise with the victim. He must be convinced that she deserves it and it's his duty to punish her, and to have fun doing it. In other words, he must be taught by immoral dogmas, such as islam. If he is not naturally aroused by violence, he will only get aroused by it when falsely taught it is not really violence.

you dont think there is other choices?like marriage for example? you think that if a man dont masterbate he will rape?you dont think a human being can control himself?

especially in the muslim world where the wife must always say yes to it in obedience.

wierd claim and i dont know why you are claiming this?

Do not the koran and muslim societies EXPECT it from wives? They are there to fuck and make babies. Also, to do housework. There are no other options for an adult woman.

you are just claiming things with no knowledge at all its all wrong and i dont know where you get this from anyway get me your evidence for that

Because most of them are missing their organs of sexual enjoyment, their clitorises. If they are lucky enough to be in the unmutilated minority, they must also be lucky enough to find their assigned husbands sexually attractive. Many women are dying from the mutilation too, by the way. In Africa 200 boys die every year from (non-sexually disabling when done correctly) circumcisions compared to more than 6,000,000 girls die from the (sexually disabling - that's why it's done!) mutilation every year, just in the Sudan alone. Here's a video with lots of facts from SkepChick on youtube (as ...user/rkwatson)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/medica...241221.stm
it has nothing to do with islam its a cultural things done by few people around the world from different places and different religion(in islam its preferred to get the boy circumcised)
and in egypt if a doctor caught doing circumcisation to a girl he goes to jail for 5 years

Only when there are 4 male witnesses, or something similar. Tell us what the koran says about rape and other sex laws. Many rapes are not considered rapes by abrahamic religion believers. In almost all cases, in islamic countries, the rape victim is punished by the false claims that she did it willingly or wanted it to happen or in some way brought it upon herself. It is almost always declared to not be a rape when it really is. I would put a zillion links and videos here as proof, but we all know it is true, and it's too depressing to spend much time viewing. In some cases, she may not be blamed, but is expected to 'marry' her rapist.

first of all you are talking about abrahamic religions and there is a lot differences between them but probably you dont know. second what the Quran says about having sex if aman and a woman cought having sex in public(witnessed by 4 persons)each of them get 80 lashes if not married and if married both will be stoned. about the rape the guy who commit rape stoned and nothing to the woman of course about marrying her rapist thats not right nothing say that in islam and i dont know about the law

I wish I could magically bring freedom to those countries who are currently stuck in an islamic theocracy, especially the women, since they are getting an especially shitty ride over there.

believe me they are more respected and happy than you

You have shown only parts that clearly do NOT offer equality or freedom to women. Your quotes all confirm what I think. You have not convinced me that I am under any misconceptions regarding how islam affects women.

of course you dont get it

Well, the ones living as mutilated muslim sexslave/'wives' probably get treated a lot better when they pretend you non-modern men are great lovers. Your future wife will probably do the same if she wants you to treat her well. She will want the approval of her husband, and therefore society, and therefore the god her society has convinced her is real. The genuine pleasure on her face afterwards is there because she is happy she pleased you, not because she had fun from the sex. She knows that if she has a good attitude that you like regarding sex, she will get your approval.

lol the same weird claims without evidence

By the way, this reminds me. I have heard that if a woman chooses to dress in clothing designated as men's clothing, they are punished. If I wear a boring loose factory style workshirt, with a man's tshirt under, and workboots, am I still being immodest? Or does sexuality no longer apply here, meaning it's gender only, meaning that you still need to be able to quickly identify all the lower caste women in a crowd quickly, and that they of course can't work in many jobs that require comfortable clothing.

she can wear whatever she want as long as it covers her body except face and hands
ok scented am done with that before you claim something plz just google it if you find it has anything to do with islam tell me about it if not am not here to talk about cultural problems and answer videos from youtube so plz dont throw things on me before at least getting me the verse that say it

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Clarification: By adult, I mean 9 years old (6 for the housework part), such as the prophet Mohammed's wife

http://www.ilovezakirnaik.com/madamayeshah/index.htm
she was 19 years old not 9
some of the muslim scholars made a big mistake by answering what some people claims about marriage at 9(as it was normal to marry after pubirty in this time) and many people thought that means she was really 9 when she got married which is wrong