RE: Science, faith, and theists
September 4, 2014 at 4:16 pm
(This post was last modified: September 4, 2014 at 5:09 pm by Diablo.)
(September 4, 2014 at 3:23 pm)Diablo Wrote:(September 4, 2014 at 12:11 pm)Diablo Wrote: The burden of proof lies with the person making that assertion. If your god exists then prove it. Whether you do it in the lab or not is your choice. Don't expect other people to devise tests for something that is your invention.
Nothing yet. How long should we wait? 2000 years?
Nothing yet.
(September 4, 2014 at 3:29 pm)Dawsonite Wrote:No he doesn't, 'cos there isn't any.(September 4, 2014 at 10:42 am)Michael Wrote: At first sight we might observe:
1) Everything that has a beginning has a cause
2) The universe has a beginning
ergo
The universe has a cause.
This is a valid syllogism, except for the evidence for the two premises. Or do you have such evidence?
(September 4, 2014 at 12:11 pm)Diablo Wrote:(September 4, 2014 at 12:06 pm)Michael Wrote: So to recap, Brian said ...
Can anyone suggest to Brian how this 'bringing my belief into the lab' might actually be done?
It seems to me that, for differing reasons, we're all saying it can't be done (or at least no-one is saying how it can be done which, in practice, amounts to the same thing).
I sense we might be at the end of this particular line of conversation, so I shall leave it there unless anyone does chip in with ideas of specific experiments.
The burden of proof lies with the person making that assertion. If your god exists then prove it. Whether you do it in the lab or not is your choice. Don't expect other people to devise tests for something that is your invention.
Anything yet, Mikey?