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Science, faith, and theists
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RE: Science, faith, and theists
(September 4, 2014 at 3:23 pm)Diablo Wrote:
(September 4, 2014 at 12:11 pm)Diablo Wrote: The burden of proof lies with the person making that assertion. If your god exists then prove it. Whether you do it in the lab or not is your choice. Don't expect other people to devise tests for something that is your invention.

Nothing yet. How long should we wait? 2000 years?Thinking

Nothing yet.

(September 4, 2014 at 3:29 pm)Dawsonite Wrote:
(September 4, 2014 at 10:42 am)Michael Wrote: At first sight we might observe:
1) Everything that has a beginning has a cause
2) The universe has a beginning

ergo

The universe has a cause.

This is a valid syllogism, except for the evidence for the two premises. Or do you have such evidence?
No he doesn't, 'cos there isn't any.

(September 4, 2014 at 12:11 pm)Diablo Wrote:
(September 4, 2014 at 12:06 pm)Michael Wrote: So to recap, Brian said ...


Can anyone suggest to Brian how this 'bringing my belief into the lab' might actually be done?

It seems to me that, for differing reasons, we're all saying it can't be done (or at least no-one is saying how it can be done which, in practice, amounts to the same thing).

I sense we might be at the end of this particular line of conversation, so I shall leave it there unless anyone does chip in with ideas of specific experiments.

The burden of proof lies with the person making that assertion. If your god exists then prove it. Whether you do it in the lab or not is your choice. Don't expect other people to devise tests for something that is your invention.

Anything yet, Mikey?
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Science, faith, and theists - by Natachan - August 31, 2014 at 12:14 pm
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Michael - September 1, 2014 at 2:24 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Brian37 - September 4, 2014 at 7:29 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Michael - September 4, 2014 at 7:50 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Brian37 - September 4, 2014 at 7:53 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Michael - September 4, 2014 at 7:58 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Ben Davis - September 4, 2014 at 10:10 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Michael - September 4, 2014 at 10:31 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Brian37 - September 4, 2014 at 10:35 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Ben Davis - September 4, 2014 at 11:32 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Minimalist - September 5, 2014 at 2:26 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Tonus - September 4, 2014 at 12:21 pm
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Minimalist - September 1, 2014 at 2:29 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Natachan - September 3, 2014 at 3:36 pm
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Surgenator - September 3, 2014 at 4:16 pm
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Michael - September 4, 2014 at 3:44 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Diablo - September 3, 2014 at 3:47 pm
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 3, 2014 at 7:33 pm
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 4, 2014 at 4:39 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Michael - September 4, 2014 at 5:23 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Cato - September 4, 2014 at 6:25 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Michael - September 4, 2014 at 7:10 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Cato - September 4, 2014 at 2:17 pm
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Brian37 - September 4, 2014 at 7:58 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by The Grand Nudger - September 4, 2014 at 10:37 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Michael - September 4, 2014 at 10:42 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Dawsonite - September 4, 2014 at 3:29 pm
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by The Grand Nudger - September 4, 2014 at 10:46 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Michael - September 4, 2014 at 10:59 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by The Grand Nudger - September 4, 2014 at 11:02 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Michael - September 4, 2014 at 11:12 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by The Grand Nudger - September 4, 2014 at 11:12 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Michael - September 4, 2014 at 11:15 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by The Grand Nudger - September 4, 2014 at 11:19 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Little lunch - September 4, 2014 at 11:37 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Michael - September 4, 2014 at 12:06 pm
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Diablo - September 4, 2014 at 12:11 pm
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Diablo - September 4, 2014 at 3:23 pm
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Diablo - September 4, 2014 at 4:16 pm
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Brian37 - September 4, 2014 at 12:16 pm
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Ben Davis - September 5, 2014 at 8:26 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Michael - September 4, 2014 at 2:29 pm
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by The Grand Nudger - September 4, 2014 at 2:43 pm
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by FreeTony - September 4, 2014 at 2:47 pm
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by The Grand Nudger - September 4, 2014 at 2:54 pm
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Michael - September 4, 2014 at 2:57 pm
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Michael - September 5, 2014 at 1:26 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Dawsonite - September 5, 2014 at 7:42 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Cato - September 5, 2014 at 8:41 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Dawsonite - September 5, 2014 at 9:49 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Cato - September 5, 2014 at 10:51 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Dawsonite - September 5, 2014 at 2:54 pm
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Cato - September 5, 2014 at 2:59 pm
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Dawsonite - September 5, 2014 at 3:14 pm
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Tonus - September 5, 2014 at 8:45 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by The Grand Nudger - September 5, 2014 at 3:54 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by naimless - September 5, 2014 at 4:26 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Michael - September 5, 2014 at 9:12 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Ben Davis - September 5, 2014 at 9:48 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Tonus - September 5, 2014 at 11:51 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Michael - September 5, 2014 at 10:53 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Simon Moon - September 5, 2014 at 1:02 pm
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Michael - September 5, 2014 at 12:00 pm
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Tonus - September 5, 2014 at 12:18 pm
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Michael - September 5, 2014 at 1:21 pm
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Simon Moon - September 5, 2014 at 1:35 pm

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