RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
September 8, 2014 at 7:49 pm
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(August 31, 2014 at 2:27 am)snowtracks Wrote: without the ultra precision spot on balance between gravity and dark energy over this extended period time, heavy metal production wouldn't have taken place. afterward, these heavy metals in high concentration then had to be broken down (bacteria action) into soluble form which took several billion more years. when coincidences like these multiply, the 'random happenstances' point of view grows less and less plausible and reaches a point where it should be abandoned.
(September 8, 2014 at 11:42 am)Chuck Wrote:(September 8, 2014 at 7:03 am)Brakeman Wrote: Heavy Metals are elemental not mineral. Breaking down an element requires nuclear forces. You can biochemically combine elements but you are not "breaking them down."
When speaking of heavy metal, geochemists don't usually mean the atoms. Very few heavy metals are ever found in nature as pure elements. They are almost always found combined with other elements in characteristic molecules and minerals. When geochemist say heavy metal, they often mean the characteristic molecule or mineral in which the said metal is usually found..
My post clearly said that you can combine the heavy metals with other elements, perhaps you could do that biologically but it wouldn't be a significant method, still yet, bacteria cannot break down the element itself.
If you read his original post above, it seems he's making a case for the original heavy metals to be broken down originally by bacteria into the natural mineral compounds of which I can think of no examples for heavy metals. Perhaps he could be crudely describing a mythical creation of lighter metals from the heavy ones? What ever the case, it doesn't match reality of heavy metals on earth. The metallic compounds of the heavy metals certainly did not originate biologically.
Gold, Lead, and Mercury compounds do not originate from bacterial action and whether they become soluble in some solution has nothing to do with god, dark matter, and woo, it has to do with chemistry.
(August 31, 2014 at 2:27 am)snowtracks Wrote: without the ultra precision spot on balance between gravity and dark energy over this extended period time, heavy metal production wouldn't have taken place. afterward, these heavy metals in high concentration then had to be broken down (bacteria action) into soluble form which took several billion more years. when coincidences like these multiply, the 'random happenstances' point of view grows less and less plausible and reaches a point where it should be abandoned.
(September 8, 2014 at 11:42 am)Chuck Wrote:(September 8, 2014 at 7:03 am)Brakeman Wrote: Heavy Metals are elemental not mineral. Breaking down an element requires nuclear forces. You can biochemically combine elements but you are not "breaking them down."
When speaking of heavy metal, geochemists don't usually mean the atoms. Very few heavy metals are ever found in nature as pure elements. They are almost always found combined with other elements in characteristic molecules and minerals. When geochemist say heavy metal, they often mean the characteristic molecule or mineral in which the said metal is usually found..
My post clearly said that you can combine the heavy metals with other elements, perhaps you could do that biologically but it wouldn't be a significant method, still yet, bacteria cannot break down the element itself.
If you read his original post above, it seems he's making a case for the original heavy metals to be broken down organically by bacteria into the natural mineral compounds of which I can think of no examples processes for heavy metals. Perhaps he could be crudely describing a mythical creation of lighter metals from the heavy ones? What ever the case, it doesn't match reality of heavy metals on earth. The metallic compounds of the heavy metals certainly did not originate biologically. They are naturally found as compounds with oxygen, chlorine, and sulfur, among a few others, and these combinations occurred well before cellular life.
Gold, Lead, and Mercury compounds do not originate from bacterial action and whether they become soluble in some solution has nothing to do with god, dark matter, and woo, it has to do with chemistry.
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