(June 11, 2010 at 12:21 am)tackattack Wrote:
I hope that explains it a little better.
Hmmm...I've re-read this post several times. I'm still not sure if I entirely understand it. Very interesting, to say the least- I've never come across this type of christian worldview before. Tackattack continues to provide us with food for thought.
Okay, so assuming that I have more or less understood the inclusive position properly:
1. Does everyone have the laws of god inherent in their nature? I'm assuming that they do.
2. Lets say someone is an atheist, without a shred of religious belief, e.g. myself. It seems to me that I still get 'punished' in that whatever path god has laid out for me, I haven't taken it. And I've been exposed to plenty of christianity, but rejected it outright- often with considerable vehemence. So its hellfire for Caecilian. Despite the fact that I've spent most of my adult life working with people with mental health problems, learning difficulties and/or autism, and have very certainly done more good in the world than harm.
3. But heres the weird thing- if I'd never been exposed to christianity at all, I'd apparently still have a shot at heaven. So the very worst thing that a christian can do is try to increase awareness of christianity in countries with other faiths. If the people there don't know about jesus then they can go to heaven. But if they know and reject, then its eternal torment.
Why should god be judging us on the basis of faith? Why should it matter what we believe in? It seems very silly to me. I mean if you were to say that all democrats/ republicans/ independents (delete as appropriate) justly deserved to be tortured for eternity, that would rightly be seen as an over-reaction. And yet what christians say is very similar- 'you don't believe in this, so you'll burn forever'

And whats really appalling is that they seem to think that this is right and just.
Christianity is deeply immoral. That seems clear. Not only crazy, but ethically unacceptable, evil even.
He who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.
Mikhail Bakunin
A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything
Friedrich Nietzsche
Mikhail Bakunin
A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything
Friedrich Nietzsche