Supervenience, Transcendence, and Mind

[bennyboy]

My question is this: what simple word, other than transcendence, could you call this idea?

Why not just a "psychophysical law for the emergence of awareness?"

Ok, probably not as simple as you were looking for...

Bennyboy's Rule?

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Would you consider all sensations and perceptions to fall under Bennyboy's Rule? For example, the wetness of water, or the sizes and shapes that objects possess in our visual experience?

In the specific case of mind, I think "psychophsyical law" works okay. As a general principle for all supervenient properties not primarily dependent on their immediate mechanical context, what? Definitely not "Bennyboy's Rule"

I'd say the wetness of water is not transcendent in this way, because it is a property unique only to water; or is it? Honestly, I haven't doused myself in non-water-based liquids to see if I feel wet. As for shape and size, I'm not sure those are supervenient properties. . . just properties maybe?

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So it seems you want to place the concept of wave beyond the material world which generates the wave itself. Yes, I agree.
Ditto for the concept of mind.

I think ultimately what I'm getting at is that the wave is an expression of a more fundamental underlying relationship between momentum, gravity, and the other fundamental forces, than vice versa.

For example, is gravity a property of matter? I would say no, gravity is an underlying principle, and the various orbits, densities, etc. we observe are expressions of that underlying principle. I wouldn't say that matter "makes" gravity, even though without matter, there would be no gravity.

So unless you are talking about concepts in the context of idealism, then I'd say I'm not really referring to concepts, but to the more fundamental principles which underly physical interactions-- i.e. these principles being the reality, and the physical "stuff" that happens as the expression or manifestation of those principles.