(September 11, 2014 at 9:44 pm)sswhateverlove Wrote: I was simply making the point that both seem to be lacking, which it seems others agree with. No argument there.
Our point is that these are not the two commonly held beliefs. One may be commonly held, the other is not. You started out your entire post by making a statement that is patently false, and then built your entire argument off that statement. You were positing that the Big Bang Theory postulates a 'before' state, and you were very wrong. Why create a strawman argument that no one believes to be true if you didn't think that's what we believed it was?
You are losing a slice of credibility here.
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great
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